backup has artifacts galore and sounds horrible

[kraven morehead]

that looks like a pretty good deal there.
Ill have to see if i can scrounge up the cash and try them out.
Thanks for the link.

[kraven morehead]

Ok,
I picked up some verbatim dvd-rs as i was at sams club. these are made by cmc , mitusbishi chemicals.
Installed the latest version of dvd shrink, and get all the way to the burning stage, nero craps out at the end with errors.
I install nero 6.0 same thing happens. I just know this has to be a problem with nero as even when i make an image with it using the image recorder option in shrink, it burns fine but craps at the end like originally. I suppose I can try yet another version of nero 6 and then upgrade my burners firmware. Also I plan on using force ASPI to try to fix this. I hope to have a resolution soon.

[kraven morehead]

http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/80541

seems they are thinking its a overwiting issue with dvd shrink and nero.
I might try to uninstall-reinstall everything again and start from scratch.

[geffroman]

Originally posted by kraven morehead
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/80541

seems they are thinking its a overwiting issue with dvd shrink and nero.
I might try to uninstall-reinstall everything again and start from scratch. Now that Shrink supports writing to ISP with DVDDecryptor I am thrilled... NO MORE Nero burns for me...

[geffroman]

Originally posted by geffroman
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[kraven morehead]

well thats great news, as I really need to get those.
The verbatims are a little better as they really only mess up way towards the end of the disc. The riteks cant hold a burn as long, and that has been the problem. After setting a custom size in DVD shrink, i am able to push this problem further and further towards the end of the disc. I am now waitng for a burn to finish, but i set it back 100 mb of the standard, and i think this will work now for cheaper media. This is definatley a problem with my burner and player being picky about the media. I guess you really cant hold ritek to produce the same quality with every batch, and since my situation is sensitvie based on my hardware, i nees to get better quality, even the verbatims wont cut it. I think i just got very lucky with my first batch of riteks, plain and simple. I will definatly be trying out the BE-Alls, and hope for the best. BUt until then, just remember as a work around, Shrink is very good, since you can now choose a custom size for your final output size. although you will have to sacrifice a few % of quality since you are losing 100mb of space in my situation.

[Dezoris]

Why are the Be-All DVD+Rs not on sale?

[kraven morehead]

Well its been awhile,
but I have since moved my burner to a new machine, with a newer version of nero and the latest version of dvd shrink.
I tried using some quality verbatim and the movie crapped out at the end.
I know this is my standalone being picky, so I tried one BEALL disc and burned it at 4x. The movie I tried was dodgeball, and at the end (second to last chapter) instead of the picture going pixelated, the audio skipped for a second. However, the movie played the whole way through to the end. I wonder if I burn a movie at 2x or try upgrading my burners firmware will the issue finally go away for me. I know its the standalone because all the moves that mess up for me play on friends players. I wonder if I should try these be-alls as they allow 4.8g of storage.
http://www.meritline.com/beall-4x-dvd-r-media-4-85gb.html

[dannyv]

Originally posted by kraven morehead
Well its been awhile,
but I have since moved my burner to a new machine, with a newer version of nero and the latest version of dvd shrink.
I tried using some quality verbatim and the movie crapped out at the end.
I know this is my standalone being picky, so I tried one BEALL disc and burned it at 4x. The movie I tried was dodgeball, and at the end (second to last chapter) instead of the picture going pixelated, the audio skipped for a second. However, the movie played the whole way through to the end. I wonder if I burn a movie at 2x or try upgrading my burners firmware will the issue finally go away for me. I know its the standalone because all the moves that mess up for me play on friends players. I wonder if I should try these be-alls as they allow 4.8g of storage.
http://www.meritline.com/beall-4x-dvd-r-media-4-85gb.html

Why don't you try Ritek GO4 media. I've used about 500 of them and they are very dependable. The coating to the edge is better then most.

http://www.shop4tech.com/user.htm?go=view_item&id=2483&cata=&s_cata=

[Richk50]

I use the cheapest media available and never have a bad burn.
I've watched my backups many times over the last few years, none of them have rotted. I keep them in plastic sleeves in cd books I get for a dollar.
The only reason that I can see for my success is I have only used Pioneer burners and dvd-r.

[kraven morehead]

Well,
after checking liteons website there was a firmware upgrade as well as this program that lets you change the "book type" of the media as long as its a dvd+r and you change it before you burn.
I did this and set it to the dvd-rom book type, and the movie played for the last 5 chapters no problem.
Im not going to say this is fixed for good, but Maybe that was all it needed.
I will be trying a few more flix and will report back.

[mrbass]

As long as you've upgraded your lite-on firmware than you can just change the book-type in dvddecrypter thus eliminating the need to use lite-on's own book-type software.

[blutach]

@mrbass

Can you tell me how to change the book type in DVD Decrypter please?

Regards

[kraven morehead]

Well,
I use shrink to rip/decode everything , but I did notice that if you let shrink launch nero, the option to use a dvd-rom booktype is available.
would this work the same as well?

[mrbass]

on the very right side there is a little icon of a book...click it and there are about 5 manufacturers....for Lite-On I do
put in your DVD+R media
Next Write
then
DVD-ROM
then
Change
then it'll say Success and just click OK
then burn your .iso image ..xbox or dvd or whatever.

yes kraven morehead...nero works as well as long as it's 6.x version...Nero 5 doesn't I believe.

[kraven morehead]

Well,
im up to 2 backups that have worked flawlessly even using imation media.
It really looks as if the firmware and booktype was the issue after all of this. I just have a picky standalone player, and the dvd-rom booktype is needed here. Anyone else who is having these problems should look at that as a possible issue.
Thanks for all the help along the way to everyone who submitted some solutions/ideas.
*keeps fingers crossed*

-Kraven

[blutach]

@mrbass

Thanks for that.

Is the dvd-rom booktype the same as using UDF 1.02? Or are these unrelated? I have heard that it is best to use UDF 1.02 as this is what DVD-VIDEO standard is.

And is Nero's DVD-Video mode (which automaticaly inserts VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS folders) equivalent to DVD-ROM booktype?

Sorry for the newb questions but these are things that I always wondered about.

Regards