Is there a way to output 2324 packet size?

[Karovaldas]

I've read a couple of posts and the best advice was to use "Video CD (PAL)."

Tried doing that, but unsuccessfully. CCE 2.67 would not allow to change the packet size upward from its default 2048. Another set of problems creep in: first, my target is an NTSC VCD, and second, I cannot change the bitrate which, when I use "Video CD (PAL)" preset, is frozen at the default 1,500 Kbps.

Can anyone comment on this issue? Is there a way to produce VCD SVCD compliant video streams in CCE 2.67?

I know one can repack the 2048 streams into 2324 streams; however, the file size changes and the projects no longer fit on the CD! Maybe there is a way to repack without increasing the file size? I used Nero Burner, VCDEasy and TMPEGEnc and all of them add bulk to the files...

Thanks!

[Karovaldas]

When I tried encoding with "Video CD (PAL)" template, CCE 2.67 crashed:

"CCE encoding failed: Mux video buffer overflow"

So I can't even tell if that matrix produces 2324 packet size...


Any great ideas out there?

[RB]

Why don't you just use DVD2SVCD? Also, VCD format is MPEG1 CBR at 1500 kbps, that's why you can't change the bitrate in this preset. About the packet size: not sure an "odd" number like 2324 is even allowed... anyway try CCE-SP 2.50, save ECL and change the packet size in the ECL.

[Karovaldas]

Thanks for the suggestions, RB.

I do realize that the standard VCD bitrate is 1,500, but one can make and use MPEG-1 streams with less bitrate to fit more video on one CD. That's what I am trying to do.

DVD2SVCD makes way too much mess and I can't stand somebody/thing doing tings for me when I can do them myself :-), but I'll install it again and give it a try. We'll see what happens...

Another update: I tried to use TMPEGEnc for the same project. Now this program has the capability to produce the final video stream in 2324 size packets. However! Strange thing: I entered the desired bitrate into TMPEGEnc. The program seemed to have accpeted it but in the end produced a muxed *.mpg file that was identical in size to the one I got after encoding the video in CCE and muxing in bbMPEG--meaning, all the extra padding weight was added anyway!

So it seems to me that TMPEGEnc also encodes in 2048 size packets. THe program then adds extra padding in order to bulk up the stream to VCD specifications. Can anyone confirm this?

If the above is the case, also, the bitrate calculations are all wrong. Does anyone have a formula that would correct the disparity?

In my case, I had two files with 20 minutes of video each. I had extra 330MB on the CD which computed to 1.1 Mbps MPEG-1 file. After padding I got 380MB which took me way over the CD-R capacity.

[murattttt]

Karovaldas;
The standard bitrate for Pal VCDs is not 1500 kbits, it is 1150 . It's just the same in CCE and TMPEGEnc presets. That can be why your files are bulked up if you are encoding them with 1500 kbit/sec. You should fit at least 79 minutes of standard Mpeg1 CBR video file into a CD if you follow the 1150 kbit video and 224 bit audio as suggested.

[Karovaldas]

My bad, VCD standard is 1150, not 1500 kbps. Alas, that does not explain anything as I was encoding at 1100 kbps...

Any help in understanding the dilemma appreciated!