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2old2play
26th March 2004, 05:52
I have never donated any money to a software project in my life. I never thought any of them really deserved it. But I think if I was ever gonna do it, it would have to be right now. This is by far, the best program out there today and its only in beta. I have had nothing but fantastic results so far. Please tell me where to send you some cash. YOU DESERVE IT

To everyone else out there. PAY THIS MAN. This is what free programs are all about. Let him know you all care.

Sorry for the caps. It was a must.

KungFuCow
26th March 2004, 07:49
DVD-RB@comcast.net

The link is in the ABOUT portion of the software I think. I've donated.. twice.

jdobbs
26th March 2004, 13:20
Originally posted by 2old2play
I have never donated any money to a software project in my life. I never thought any of them really deserved it. But I think if I was ever gonna do it, it would have to be right now. This is by far, the best program out there today and its only in beta. I have had nothing but fantastic results so far. Please tell me where to send you some cash. YOU DESERVE IT

To everyone else out there. PAY THIS MAN. This is what free programs are all about. Let him know you all care.

Sorry for the caps. It was a must. You are too kind. I'll feel better about the program once I get it stabilized and released as version 1.0. It'll happen.

bigskank
26th March 2004, 14:47
Originally posted by 2old2play
I have never donated any money to a software project in my life. I never thought any of them really deserved it.

Ditto to that. I've never given a damn nickel before this. We're all broke, but c'mon guys. Dust off those paypal accounts and see if you can cough up at least 5 or 10 bucks and pay jdobbs for all the effort he's putting into this. I've gladly sacrificed my 6-pk of PBR for the week to donate what little I could, and I think anyone who's using this should do the same.

wmansir
26th March 2004, 22:06
I love Jdobb's baby, but I think a lot of other people have done great work here also. To say "noone else deserved it" is a bit of an insult. I don't want to sidetrack the discussion, because Jdobbs deserves a lot of props, but you don't have to bring down others to raise him up.

DirtyAbdul
26th March 2004, 22:54
Originally posted by 2old2play
I have never donated any money to a software project in my life. I never thought any of them really deserved it.

duuuuude, you couldn't have been in the scene for too long, if you never donated to a s/w project in your life :D. a little while ago, ifoedit was great -- i donated! dvd decrypter is great -- i donated! menuedit is great -- i donated! don't tell me you never heard of those programs that probably are hiding somewhere on your harddrive ;).

i have to admit that i didn't look into CCE/DVD-RB b/c it was just too complicated to use. alright, i was too lazy to get into this. but it seems like every1 is raving about DVD-RB, so i'll give it a try once i find some time ;). right now, i'm experimenting with rejig. heck, if DVD-RB is good then this man deserves some incentive to continue with his project -- period!

DA

2old2play
27th March 2004, 00:57
I did have those programs. Just never had the money to be donating to all those people. I am just saying that this prog is to good not to donate to. Even with what little money I have

Sbofen
27th March 2004, 02:55
Originally posted by bigskank
Ditto to that. I've never given a damn nickel before this. We're all broke, but c'mon guys. Dust off those paypal accounts and see if you can cough up at least 5 or 10 bucks and pay jdobbs for all the effort he's putting into this. I've gladly sacrificed my 6-pk of PBR for the week to donate what little I could, and I think anyone who's using this should do the same.

Wow, sacrificing a 6pk of PBR, now that's dedication.

I haven't used the program yet, but if people are willing to give up that up, its gotta be damn hot!

hmmm, getting thirsty, can't pass that one up

DirtyAbdul
27th March 2004, 20:20
@jdobbs:
MAN, this program has MUCHO POTENTIAL!!! :eek:

jdobbs, i just donated $10 bucks and hope you'll perfection DVD-RB. don't desert us (like derrow did with his ifoedit program ;) ).

DA

ps: can't get "quenc" to run with DVD-RB, but that might have been addressed in a different thread. integration of rejig works flawlessly and is just freakin' FAAAAAAAAAAAAST!

NobbyNobbs
27th March 2004, 22:40
Acusing Derrow of deserting us, with IfoEdit, seems to me to be a bit harsh, the program is free, (as in free beer, not free code.)
It is up to us if we want to use it or not, and personally I use it a lot.
In my opinion a programmer making freeware, has no obligation to me, I might feel obligated to use Pay Pal, and donate something to him, if I use the program a lot, but I canīt rightly see how he has any obligation to me.
(If somebody buys me a beer, I might feel obligated to return the favor, but fail to see that he owes me another beer, just because he bought me one.)
:D

jdobbs
27th March 2004, 23:06
Originally posted by DirtyAbdul
@jdobbs:
MAN, this program has MUCHO POTENTIAL!!! :eek:

jdobbs, i just donated $10 bucks and hope you'll perfection DVD-RB. don't desert us (like derrow did with his ifoedit program ;) ).

DA

ps: can't get "quenc" to run with DVD-RB, but that might have been addressed in a different thread. integration of rejig works flawlessly and is just freakin' FAAAAAAAAAAAAST! Can't get QuEnc to work? What is it doing?

DirtyAbdul
28th March 2004, 07:47
Originally posted by NobbyNobbs
Acusing Derrow of deserting us, with IfoEdit, seems to me to be a bit harsh, the program is free, (as in free beer, not free code.)
It is up to us if we want to use it or not, and personally I use it a lot.
In my opinion a programmer making freeware, has no obligation to me, I might feel obligated to use Pay Pal, and donate something to him, if I use the program a lot, but I canīt rightly see how he has any obligation to me.
(If somebody buys me a beer, I might feel obligated to return the favor, but fail to see that he owes me another beer, just because he bought me one.)
:D

@nobbynobbs:
well for me, it's not about freebies or donations -- and it was never meant to be an accusation! when you "hang out" with ppl that are more or less familiar to you and they leave "just like that" then i personally feel deserted -- more of a "left-behind" feeling. :( derrow was a nice guy that you could talk to (especially in german ;) ) and he contributed a lot to the dvd community. maybe you understand now what i mean...

@jdobbs:
hey, thanks for stopping by ;) . i'm sure this is not the right place to post problems, but maybe you could guide me into the right direction (possibly with a link to a thread). i just finished reading the humongous "DVD Rebuilder (CCE One-Click Beta) Bug Reports" thread! got cross-eyed and haven't even started with the other two threads yet!

anyway, if i opt for "quenc" as the encoder, the error message is

"AVS File is not outputing (Use ConvertToYV12() at end of script)". (HUH? i guess, it has somethin' to do with colors, but that's were my spanish ends :sly: )

since i just got into the AVS script thinggy, that'll be a hell lot of work for me to decypher that error message :confused: . so, what do you think? thanks in advance.

btw, i followed your instructions in your readme-file, but even cce 2.67 trial isn't working for me -- only rejig runs great (with some chapter problems that are already mentioned in the above thread ;) ).

DA

ps: just d/l version 0.25 :D

jdobbs
28th March 2004, 11:05
@DirtyAbdul"AVS File is not outputing (Use ConvertToYV12() at end of script)". (HUH? i guess, it has somethin' to do with colors, but that's were my spanish ends ) This is just one of those things... YV12 is a way to represent color -- it just so happens that QuEnc works in YV12 color space, so the AVISYNTH script (.AVS file) has to have that statement in it to make it compatible. If you choose QuEnc before you run the first phase (PREPARE) that statement will be automatically added.

DirtyAbdul
28th March 2004, 19:14
Originally posted by jdobbs
@DirtyAbdul This is just one of those things... YV12 is a way to represent color -- it just so happens that QuEnc works in YV12 color space, so the AVISYNTH script (.AVS file) has to have that statement in it to make it compatible. If you choose QuEnc before you run the first phase (PREPARE) that statement will be automatically added.

ahh, "color space" sounds very professional (and familiar ;) ).

i still get the "YV12" problem, though. my steps:

1. clicked on "QuEnc Mode"
2. closed ReBuilder (just to make sure every parameter is reset on next start).
3. ran ReBuilder (and making sure "QuEnc" was still checked).
2. clicked on "Prepare" button
3. then "Encode" button -> that's when i receive the "YV12" error message.

i already read somewhere in the bug thread that you better not switch around between different modes (cce/rejig/quenc), but rather have RB "prepare" the dvd-files everytime you switch to a new encoding/transcoding mode.

do you have any suggestion? or does it imply that i have to edit EVERY single AVS file and add the "ConvertToYV12()" at the end of the script after the "prepare" process (a lot of work!)??? why then do i seem to be the only one with this problem :confused:

any help greatly appreciated. :D

DA

ps: and back to reading the other 2 threads :cool:
btw jdobbs, do you think i should rather post in the "bug report" thread -- ie., if this were really a bug :confused:

jdobbs
28th March 2004, 20:22
DirtyAbdul,

Maybe I've done something wrong since first implementing. I'll go back and look before posting v0.26...
ahh, "color space" sounds very professional Didn't mean to sound like I was talking down to you... I like to post answers like they are addressed to everyone.

DirtyAbdul
28th March 2004, 20:46
Originally posted by jdobbs
DirtyAbdul,

Maybe I've done something wrong since first implementing. I'll go back and look before posting v0.26...
Didn't mean to sound like I was talking down to you... I like to post answers like they are addressed to everyone.

oh no jdobbs, that's not what i meant and i neeeever felt that way :p . i'm a professional myself (that's why i need to change my nickname :D) and like it when correct terms are used. my remark was actually a word of admiration :D . i absolutely agree that everyone has to be precise and to the point in order to facilitate communication! just go ahead, share your knowledge and teach -- i'm all ears (or eyes ;) ).

can't wait until v0.26 comes out!

DA

jdobbs
28th March 2004, 21:10
@DirtyAbdul

By the way. I went back and looked and did some encoding with QuEnc and the ConvertToYV12() command was being inserted in the .AVS files... not sure what was happening to you...

nwg
29th March 2004, 01:07
This should be in bugs thread shouldn't it?

Anyway, I had the same problem with ConvertToYV12.

I selected CCE in DVD RB and quitted.

I moved the QuEnc file into the same directory as DVD RB.

I changed the pathnames in the setup.

I then selected QuEnc and it worked when I started to encode.

It is probably just a fluke but, I also couldn't get Rejig to work (got run time error 9 on selecting process) unless the Rejig file was in the DVD RB directory.

jdobbs
29th March 2004, 01:19
Originally posted by nwg
This should be in bugs thread shouldn't it?

Anyway, I had the same problem with ConvertToYV12.

I selected CCE in DVD RB and quitted.

I moved the QuEnc file into the same directory as DVD RB.

I then selected QuEnc and it worked when I started to encode.

It is probably just a fluke but, I also couldn't get Rejig to work (got run time error 9 on selecting process) unless the Rejig file was in the DVD RB directory. Can you tell me the pathnames for the ones that failed and for you DVD-RB directory?

Thanks.

DirtyAbdul
29th March 2004, 04:41
Originally posted by nwg
This should be in bugs thread shouldn't it?

Anyway, I had the same problem with ConvertToYV12.

I selected CCE in DVD RB and quitted.

I moved the QuEnc file into the same directory as DVD RB.

I then selected QuEnc and it worked when I started to encode.

It is probably just a fluke but, I also couldn't get Rejig to work (got run time error 9 on selecting process) unless the Rejig file was in the DVD RB directory.

ooooh my gosh :eek: !!! i think i did a faux-pas (a stupid newbie mistake) -- and this might also apply to you, nwg!

i just read a comment by beer-chan in the bug report thread: the rebuilder.txt clearly mentioned that

you must have a copy of MPEG2DEC3DG.DLL installed on your computer. At the Doom9 site, download DVD2AVI dg. It (at this writing) is contained in a ZIP file DECODEFIX100.ZIP. Open that zip and within you will find a file called MPEG2DEC3DG.DLL. Copy that file into a directory called "PlugIns" under the AVISYNTH directory (created in step 1). Putting it there could save you lots of possible headaches later!

RTFM, right? :D

i am so sorry i overlooked it! quenc is RIGHT NOW happily encoding without any complaints :rolleyes: with v0.26 :D .

thanks jdobbs for your input! nowadays, where the heck do you get 24h customer service for FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEE like here??? :D

DA

ps: just to be on the safe side, i also went into "options/setup" and added/linked the "Path to MPEG2DEC" to the MPEG2Dec3dg.dll file.

nwg
29th March 2004, 05:22
My copy of MPEG2DEC3DG.DLL was in the right plugins directory.

I forgot about changing the pathname bit. I had to change the setup pathnames for Rejig and QuEnc.

jdobbs wrote,
Can you tell me the pathnames for the ones that failed and for you DVD-RB directory?

The DVD RB directory is c:\program files\DVD Rebuilder\Rebuilder.exe. Both Rejig and QuEnc are now in that directory as well.

Both Rejig and QuEnc were in a folder on the desktop called DVD. I have shortcuts to all my DVD software in there but for some reason I put the two exe files in there. The paths to the exe files were correct in the DVD RB setup.

Quenc worked in that folder up to 024 but with 025 it didn't work and I got that error message. It is also working with 026.

kadilak
1st April 2004, 16:43
Just sent in my first donation. Keep up the good work!

jdobbs
2nd April 2004, 01:40
Originally posted by kadilak
Just sent in my first donation. Keep up the good work! Thanks!

-JS-
2nd April 2004, 05:30
$20 winging its way to you now, the same again is waiting when the program hits v1 ;) (a little incentive there, lol :))

jdobbs
2nd April 2004, 10:37
Originally posted by -JS-
$20 winging its way to you now, the same again is waiting when the program hits v1 ;) (a little incentive there, lol :)) I appreciate the support!

paulers
2nd April 2004, 15:59
Jdobbs,

a few days ago I sent $30 your way. I hope it helps with the burnout factor.

jdobbs
2nd April 2004, 16:52
Originally posted by paulers
Jdobbs,

a few days ago I sent $30 your way. I hope it helps with the burnout factor. You are my friend. :D I'm keeping track of everyone who contributes and you'll start getting automatic update notices after I get this out of beta. I'm planning to do a lot of work this weekend.

bobrap
2nd April 2004, 20:50
A few pennies from TN enroute.:) Thanks for the great program:D

Discoboy
4th April 2004, 14:22
Just sent in my first donation and well worth every penny

;)

jdobbs
4th April 2004, 14:28
Originally posted by Discoboy
Just sent in my first donation and well worth every penny

;) Another best friend!

donny74
4th April 2004, 16:53
My backups has been perfect thanks to DVD-RB.
Thanks for everything jdobbs. My donation of $30 USD has been sent. Will send alot more monetary support when DVD-RB hits v1.0. Keep up the awesome work.

jdobbs
4th April 2004, 16:54
Originally posted by donny74
My backups has been perfect thanks to DVD-RB.
Thanks for everything jdobbs. My donation of $30 USD has been sent. Will send alot more monetary support when DVD-RB hits v1.0. Keep up the awesome work. Thanks!

bohemian
8th April 2004, 16:27
I have been keeping up with all the threads regarding DVD-RB, and am mpressed with your efforts to perfect this program.
I hope my donation can help keep you focused on the final goal :)

jdobbs
8th April 2004, 16:59
Originally posted by bohemian
I have been keeping up with all the threads regarding DVD-RB, and am mpressed with your efforts to perfect this program.
I hope my donation can help keep you focused on the final goal :) Thanks. I plan to make this the premium choice for DVD backups.

nimbles
8th April 2004, 18:19
hey jdobbs just donated $50 for the prog- you deserve it- first time i've ever donated - thank you so much for this program- I've just done 4 very successful back ups including a very annoying goodfellas r2 (pal) flipper.

probably not the right place to ask this but the goodfellas flipper i was referring to is a pal 720x576 source, 4:3 adpect ratio but there are blackbars top and bottom so that the aspect ratio of the actual film is anamorhpic.

would it be possible for me to add the crop then resize commands in avisynth so that CCE only is encoding the actual movie and not the black bars? if so would the effort be worth it? (a lot of avs files to go through).

If so I assume i'd have to expand the original picture source to get it back up to 720x576 right? i've neevr expanded on a resize- will i be introducing a load of unwanted artifacts by doing this?

once again great work on this prog!

Joergen
8th April 2004, 20:31
Good job nimbles! 50$ is the current record I think? ;)

Jdobbs was planning on widescreen-conversions for backup but I think while it's a nice feature for some, most dvd's luckily are true anamorphic where they should be so it would be a quite rarely used feature. You can always use your aspect button on the TV too.

I know only two DVD's that arent anamorphic due to poor mastering, and one of them is The Fift Element Special Edition R2 (a few years old DVD which is being re-released PROPERLY soon).

jdobbs
8th April 2004, 21:52
Originally posted by nimbles
hey jdobbs just donated $50 for the prog- you deserve it- first time i've ever donated - thank you so much for this program- I've just done 4 very successful back ups including a very annoying goodfellas r2 (pal) flipper.

probably not the right place to ask this but the goodfellas flipper i was referring to is a pal 720x576 source, 4:3 adpect ratio but there are blackbars top and bottom so that the aspect ratio of the actual film is anamorhpic.

would it be possible for me to add the crop then resize commands in avisynth so that CCE only is encoding the actual movie and not the black bars? if so would the effort be worth it? (a lot of avs files to go through).

If so I assume i'd have to expand the original picture source to get it back up to 720x576 right? i've neevr expanded on a resize- will i be introducing a load of unwanted artifacts by doing this?

once again great work on this prog! If you look under AVS options you'll see that I have a disabled 4:3 to 16:9 resizing option. I've done a few of these in the past for the same reason -- I just like having 16:9. Actually it comes out pretty good as long as you use the right resizer -- when you are enlarging a picture I like LanczosResize() best. BicubicResize() is also good. Avoid Bilinear. Lanczos is what I planned to use when enabling the option. Here is the AVISYNTH command line that goes in the AVS files:

For PAL:
LanczosResize(720,576,0,72,720,432)

For NTSC:
LanczosResize(720,480,0,60,720,360)

I'll make sure I enable it in the next version -- as you are definitely one of my favorite people right now. The down side is that it will be applied against an entire VTS -- so there is a possiblity that you might get 4:3 extras that will have the top and bottom removed.

You also need to make a change in the associated IFO to make it 16:9 and if doing it the right way (but it will work without it on a DVD) it should have the aspect ratio changed in all the Sequence Headers. My code will do all that when enabled.

BTW -- the resize above will become anamorphic.

wmansir
8th April 2004, 22:11
Originally posted by jdobbs
I'll make sure I enable it in the next version -- as you are definitely one of my favorite people right now. The down side is that it will be applied against an entire VTS -- so there is a possiblity that you might get 4:3 extras that will have the top and bottom removed.

Are you going to make that a per-VTS setting in the next version, or the whole disc like Half-D1 is now?

nimbles
9th April 2004, 02:04
hey thanks for the tip jdobbs- but i guess this kind of thing happens in only a very few cases. I think in my collection of dvd's only goodfellas "suffers" from this phenomenon.

I guess what i'm trying to say is i don't think this as big a priority as other stuff you have on your to do list, so please don't "rejig" :D your "to do" list just for this- i did it "normally" and the picture quality was excellent anyway.

I'm gonna give this resizing a go now but i won't be disappointed if it doesn't work, put it that way

jikchung
16th April 2004, 02:31
jdobbs,
Great program, cant wait for the "final" incarnation. Just sent my second donation.

brikin
16th April 2004, 14:33
Man I had to throw 20 bones your way. I have been bothering you about the damn buffer overflow error and just wanted to let you know you are doing an awsome job.

Keep it up.
Brik

jdobbs
16th April 2004, 15:35
Originally posted by brikin
Man I had to throw 20 bones your way. I have been bothering you about the damn buffer overflow error and just wanted to let you know you are doing an awsome job.

Keep it up.
Brik May the road rise up to meet ya' and the wind be always at yer' back.

jdobbs
16th April 2004, 15:37
Originally posted by jikchung
jdobbs,
Great program, cant wait for the "final" incarnation. Just sent my second donation. It is truly, truly appreciated. I want to be a programmer when I grow up.

EddieTH
16th April 2004, 17:08
I don't normally donate for free programs but you you just got $10 from me. I expect to donate some more when I'm less strapped for cash. Just having a program like this that works with CCE Basic makes it worth every penny (and more). Keep up the great work!

jdobbs
16th April 2004, 17:13
Originally posted by EddieTH
I don't normally donate for free programs but you you just got $10 from me. I expect to donate some more when I'm less strapped for cash. Just having a program like this that works with CCE Basic makes it worth every penny (and more). Keep up the great work! Thanks. I appreciate the extra consideration. I think you'll get a "return on investment" for that donation as I continue to improve this product.

Sir Didymus
17th April 2004, 14:34
I just donate $10. I know it's a little amount...

Anyway, I want to thank Master Jdobbs for the fantastic work he is doing with DVD-RB. It is in the stage of beta test but everyone may understand it is a milestone for everyone want to have HIGH QUALITY backups for their DVD titles.

I have to say also that apart the usage of the program, for people wanting to improve their knowledge in the encoding and authoring, DVD-RD represents a big opportunity to learn more in these fields and to extend their experience.

And now, just a final loud voice communication:

Come on gentlemen !!!
Spending few dollars you give a big support to the DVD-RB project !!!
So, people, please go on with the donations !!!

jdobbs
17th April 2004, 14:36
Oh yeah, Sir Didymus,... you are really my friend!

philos31
22nd April 2004, 22:12
Just forked over the recomended minimum...
This is for implementing the half d1 half bitrate option ;)
So that makes it a bit "MY OWN" option hehehe

When I recieve my sh*tload of money this month I will see what other new options I will buy :)

Thanks for putting so much work in this project for us!

You the man!

jdobbs
22nd April 2004, 22:24
Originally posted by philos31
Just forked over the recomended minimum...
This is for implementing the half d1 half bitrate option ;)
So that makes it a bit "MY OWN" option hehehe

When I recieve my sh*tload of money this month I will see what other new options I will buy :)

Thanks for putting so much work in this project for us!

You the man! Thanks, you want me to change the name on the menu?;)

philos31
22nd April 2004, 22:31
Originally posted by jdobbs
Thanks, you want me to change the name on the menu?;)

Well that would be nice :)

But better wait for the "insert subtitle" option (if you ever will find time for that (not pushing here)) That would be a nice one to have renamed :D

Just kidding here offcourse :rolleyes: