audio capture

[point_vector]

I am currently trying to capture a laserdisc audio track that is thx certified, and I would like to keep it that way. I am using a creative audigy 2 with optical in. Is there any way I can keep the track and back it up with the video to dvd-r.
thanks

[planet1]

why going into so much trouble :) ? cant you just buy the DVD version.

Anyway by audio track i assume you mean AC-3 on laserdisc.

As far as i know ( actually i dont know much about laserdiscs), laserdisc players didnt use the "normal" optical out - but some special optical - RF connection. That means your soundcard input also has to be RF (which its not most likely).
Maybe your Receiver - can pick up the signal via its RF input - and output it on the normal optical / coaxial digital out.

There was some Sony Decoder (AC-3/Mpeg2) years ago, which had a patch-through feature (RF---> to optical or 5.1 RCA out).


But again, isnt it too much work - just to get that damn audio ... ???


http://users.aol.com/chunter/ac-3mod.html

[point_vector]

actually, the laserdisc I want to capture isn't on dvd and it won't ever be released. I'm sure everyone knows what trilogy I'm talking about. And, by the way, thanks for suggesting that, I was just about to try that because I just ordered a new sound card with spdif i/o.
Has anyone heard anything about the m-audio audiophile 2496.

[specise_8472]

Originally posted by point_vector
[B]actually, the laserdisc I want to capture isn't on dvd and it won't ever be released. I'm sure everyone knows what trilogy I'm talking about.

Actually it was confirmed a couple? of years ago (by the man himself)that they will be released, but only after Part 3 has been in the theaters and made heaps of dosh. Also said at the same time that there will be no extra features, as they are missing.

[echooff]

Which trilogy is that?

[e.lectronick]

Originally posted by specise_8472
Actually it was confirmed a couple? of years ago (by the man himself)that they will be released, but only after Part 3 has been in the theaters and made heaps of dosh. Also said at the same time that there will be no extra features, as they are missing.

The original trilogy will never be released. He's talking about the "Special Ed"ition with all the horrible retakes and annoying animations.

Although, for purposes of this argument, the original unretouched trilogy doesn't have surround sound on it anyway. Only the Special Edition LDs do...
-Erik.

[specise_8472]

Go to WWW.Blackstar.Co.UK (NOW Sendit.Com)

And you can pre-order the set. OOps, not quite pre-order, but they now have a DVD listing for it. So it can't be far away.

Then again, who knows - I had Blakes 7 Series1 on preorder for over 2 years! before it appeared. Am watching it now.
Ahhhh the days of spaceships bouncing around on the end of string.

[e.lectronick]

Species 8472,

I just looked at the link you gave me for the original trilogy DVD release, and I think it's still the Special Edition version of the films. I looked over at Amazon.com and found the same set due to be released on Sept. 21 2004 in Region 1 format. There was also a release review on it that hypes the film's history, but goes on to say in closing:

"Years later, George Lucas transformed his films into "special editions" by adding new scenes and special effects, which were greeted mostly by shrugs from fans. They were perfectly happy with the films they had grown up with (who cares if Greedo shot first?), and thus disappointed by Lucas's decision to make the special editions the only versions available on DVD. Still, the Star Wars trilogy was one of the last remaining DVD Holy Grails, and only the most stubborn critics won't welcome its release. --David Horiuchi"

While I think it's interesting there is no mention of the words "Special Edition" in the details of the trilogy's release (it's not anywhere on the page or from what you can see of the box), I think the reviewer is indicating here to potential buyers that it's the Special Edition version. I'll probably get it anyway, but I am at heart a purist, and my "Ultimate Edition" original unretouched trilogy on Laserdisc will be dearer to me still.

I do think there's some good in the Special Edition versions. Personally, I think the Battle of Yavin is better with more ships and better dogfighting shots, so wouldn't it be cool to not only preserve the original as it was released in theaters, but also to splice in or out whichever parts you enjoy better to get the best of both films in one? You could do your own "Phantom Edit". Though, it might be difficult, I've been thinking of lifting the AC3 from the Special Edition, and laying it onto as much of the Original as it would fit. Only a few scenes wouldn't work right (two laserblasts in the Cantina versus the one Han used to drop Greedo in the original comes to mind), but it'd be a challenge to remix the original stereo sound for those moments in 5.1 and see how it sounds.

Sorry, I'm going on and on and my hands are cramping up.

Whaddya think?

-Erik.

[e.lectronick]

Originally posted by point_vector
actually, the laserdisc I want to capture isn't on dvd and it won't ever be released. I'm sure everyone knows what trilogy I'm talking about. And, by the way, thanks for suggesting that, I was just about to try that because I just ordered a new sound card with spdif i/o.
Has anyone heard anything about the m-audio audiophile 2496.

Hi,
Before you connect the RF output to your digital in jack, you first need to convert the modulated Radio Frequency signal into a digital one by running it into an RF to digital converter like the Yamaha APD-1. Then you plug the output of that device into your soundcard. It won't work otherwise.
On their website, M-audio states that a standard feature on all of their PCI interfaces (including the 2496) is bit for bit accurate recording via their S/PDIF input jacks Check out the right hand column here:

http://www.m-audio.com/index.php?do=products.list&ID=pciinterfaces

Not to be confused with AC3 passthrough, which only applies to the digital outputs on the card, "Bit Accurate" capability applies to the inputs and means that you can capture the now converted digital AC3 stream as it is sent from the APD-1 without any changes made to it by the soundcard. From what I understand, you can use your recording software program to save this stream as an xxx.raw file, rename it as xxx.ac3 and use BeSweet to munch it into a burnable 5.1 surround sound AC3 file for real. Supposedly, people have done it. Look here:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?threadid=56795

It's what I've used as my reference. I haven't done it yet (low on funds for a an AIW 9800 for video capture), but its in the works.

Cheers,
-Erik.