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monomer
10th March 2004, 05:50
I am a believer in fair use rights... whether its using a copying machine, a tape recorder, a VHS video recorder, a CD-R/W drive, or DVD-R/W drive. As long as I have legally purchased the original, I feel I have a right to preserve that information for my own personal use as I see fit. If you likewise agree in that interpretation of fair use rights then I suggest you go here http://capwiz.com/protectfairuse/mail/compose/ and then actively begin to voice your opinion to congress, the media, and the courts before Hollywood succeeds in distorting and then banishing those fair use rights forever. Its simple, just enter your zip code into the little red box entitled "Tell Congress to Defend Your Fair Use Rights" then click "GO"... you will be taken to a page that lists your US Representative(s) and both US Senators, there is a subject and message box already filled out for you... or if you wish you can simply type in your own message... fill in name/address/e-mail and click "SEND MESSAGE" that's all there is to it. Instead of just complaining on a forum about being denied your fair use rights, actually DO something about it. This is your chance... the BALANCE Act is making its way through the House of Representatives right now.

However if you don't believe consumers should have that right then please accept my apologies and ignore this posting and thread... Thank You


P.S. Below you will find a reproduction of the text message that will be sent to your congressional reps (unless you change/customize it)...

"As your constituent and a consumer of digital media, I urge you to support legislation in the 108th Congress that will correct an unintended consequence of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, which weakened the rights of consumers like me to make copies of DVDs for personal use. Your prompt action is needed to address the February 20, 2004 ruling by the Northern District Court of California that further inhibits my ability to exercise my fair use rights.

I want the right to make a back-up copy of my personal, legally obtained DVDs. H.R. 107, the Digital Media Consumer Rights Act of 2003 and H.R.1066, the Benefit Authors without Limiting Advancement or Net Consumer Expectations (BALANCE) Act, would protect my right to fair use in the digital age, that is, my right to make copies for personal use of works I purchase in DVD format. I can already make copies of movies that I own onto VHS and music onto cassettes and MP3 players. As my representative, I need your support to ensure I have the same fair use of the DVDs that I own and that my family enjoys.

As new technologies continue to emerge, your leadership can help to restore and protect the balance between the rights of copyright holders and those of citizens who legally purchase copyrighted works.

While the movie industry has a right to protect and profit from their artistic works, I believe consumers have a fair use right to enjoy and make personal back-up copies of the works they legally purchased.

Do not allow special interests to criminalize consumers for exercising their fair use rights in the digital age. Please use your voice in Congress to find the middle ground in this debate over digital rights and ensure that legislation passes this session.

Thank you, in advance, for your leadership on this important issue."

Pyscrow
10th March 2004, 09:24
If its a personnal DVD you can do what you like with it, if its a DVD that holds material copyrighted by someone else, then you are bound by your particular countries copyright laws.(And the current interpretation by the local courts).

There is really no room for discussion!

mpucoder
10th March 2004, 15:28
There is plenty of room for discussion, and activism. Especially in the US, where the mess started. We have 2 bills before the congress to reverse the damage made by the DMCA, letting elected officials know our position is democracy at its best.

goosegg
11th March 2004, 23:48
Any parents here? Anyone notice that Disney DVD's now will not let you skip past the half-hour of trailers before the movie or go straight to the Main menu?

It sucked in the past, what a pain in the ass. One video, can't remember which one, I had to hit skip 12 times to get to the movie. So thats 12 times MINIMUM that a poor dad has to hear "I don't want THAT one! WAHHH!"

Then, I have a 2 and a 4 year old. The 2 year old LOVES ejecting the DVD. That makes this new arrangement sheer torture.

My response? I came here a long time ago and dl'd Gordian Knot. I've ripped every movie I have to .avi and I do the additional transformation to VCD to maintain compatibility with the minivan.

So I give thanks to Disney for providing me with the motive to learn new uses for technology.

But, the question is, who gets control of your TV? Do you want to pay $15 for the right to sit through a Brother Bear trailer every time you pop a DVD in? Din't think so.

Another, more important question is: DO you protest this action by Disney by not buying the DVD, or do you protest by giving annoyance free copies to fellow parents?

I'm not condoning or admitting either one, just asking the question.....drink up me hardies.

Neo Neko
12th March 2004, 09:01
For those interested in an on topic semi-interesting read check out wired news. Specifically this story. http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/12.03/lessig.html

And for all the /. ers and anonymous cowards you can vent at http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/03/11/1652242&mode=thread

The article is not without flaws. But it is thought provoking. RIAA and MPAA calling the kettle black eh?

/me goes back to watching the compile of KDE 3.2.1 on Gentoo and FreeBSD 5.1.