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Milehigh
7th March 2004, 18:42
Greetings,

I've been using dvd2svcd for about a year, having great success, while also learning to respect and adjust for some of its quirks - often with the help of these forums. But lately I've come upon a baffling problem.

Just about every Disney DVD I try to copy generates a "vob read error" at some point in the initial ripping process. This is on my Windows 2000 laptop. Oddly, I can often put the DVD in my much older Windows 98 PC, and the vobs will rip. I hypothesize maybe there's some copy-protect technology at work more geared towards newer computers?

Anyway, now I'm working on The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh. Dvd2svcd generated "vob read error" messages during the rip of vob 2. On a whim, I tried doing all four vobs individually and seperately with the Rip Only option on my laptop - and they all ripped - except for vob 2. I then put the DVD in the PC to try to rip vob 2, and it slowed down and froze at about 75% done.

By the way, the failure occurs whether I use dvd2svcd's internal routines or vstrip.

I suppose it's possible I have a defective DVD, but it does play just fine. And as I say, the vob read failures have only been occurring with Disney products. So maybe they're putting something funky in vob 2 to defeat the rip?

I know there are alternative vob ripper programs out there, so I'd like to know if someone could recommend one that's robust enough to handle tricky DVDs and also fairly easy to learn and use?

And I'd be curious to know what the most common causes of a vob read error message are.

Thanks very much,

Milehigh

r6d2
8th March 2004, 00:25
Originally posted by Milehigh
I know there are alternative vob ripper programs out there, so I'd like to know if someone could recommend one that's robust enough to handle tricky DVDs and also fairly easy to learn and use?I experienced the same problems with some movies, not particularly Disney's. At first I thought the same as you, some sort of protection. However, it turned out to be a faulty PC DVD player, which I had replaced under warranty.

On the most robust ripper, DVD Decrypter is the one I use since I found it to be faster and smarter. Tylo's DVD Decrypter plugin may be of use for this. It integrates very well into DVD2SVCD.

Trahald
8th March 2004, 05:13
yes as r6 said.. many times it is the reader. i have some dvds that my dvdrom will have errors with and my dvdburner (newer) will read. and oddly sometimes vice versa. and the fact they play fine on standalone is no proof because standalones readers dont read the disk the same way dvdroms do. so many scratches or blemishes (and sometimes you cant see them looking at the disk by eye) will play straight through on a standalone but a dvdrom will sit on a sector and keep trying to read it without success.

so sorry.. no new protection. its all about variations in readers and sometimes dumb luck. id say definately go with tylos dvddecrypter plugin.. dvddecrypter lets you fine tune error handling. it wont make the disk more readable.. but it will try harder (read longer) to read a sector before giving up.

Milehigh
8th March 2004, 08:18
Okay, call me stupid, but where do I find Tylo's Dvddecrypter plugin? I've searched all the forums for a download link, even found his website via his D2SRoBa 3 plugin - but no Dvddecrypter plugin ... Of course, found the main DVD Decrypter website, but not a Tylo plugin ...

Milehigh
8th March 2004, 09:24
Almost forgot - thanks r6d2 and Trahald for the tips. Used the non-plugin version of DVD Decrypter and had a successful rip of vob 2 ... now time to see if dvd2svcd can successfully put the whole thing together.

Milehigh
9th March 2004, 00:05
Just learned Decrypter plug-in is bundled with D2SRoBa. No need to answer previous question re: Where is it?

r6d2
9th March 2004, 03:10
Originally posted by Milehigh
Okay, call me stupidDon't worry. Happens to all of us from time to time. :D Always remember to use the allmighty search button.