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Scarpad
3rd March 2004, 19:01
Has this ever happened to any of you? I use DVDShrink to Reauthor a disk and keep what I want to keep. I let it encode and then I use RecordNow Max to burn the result. Currently I'm using Memorex 4 speed disks and I record at the lowest speed setting. I then try the disk in both my players and it refuses to load or play.
I then go and burn another using the same method, software and Shrink Movie folder. I make no changes whatsoever. The new disk plays without a hitch.
Recording the 1st disk I received no errors and it said it burned successfully, but will not play. THe second using another disk from the same spindle, no problem. Can a disk go thru the entire recrding proccess error free and not play when the source material is obviously good?
Pyscrow
3rd March 2004, 20:42
I've had it happen once or twice, and you have obviously also had that experience, so the answer is obviously "yes".
In my case the DVD could still be read in the burner, but not a DVD player, how about you?
Scarpad
3rd March 2004, 22:18
Yeah but I guess I'm trying to find out where the fault lies and How I can resolve this from Happenning.
mrbass
3rd March 2004, 23:19
yes I've had this happen....memorex is the culprit
rpboy
4th March 2004, 01:13
Originally posted by Scarpad
Has this ever happened to any of you? I use DVDShrink to Reauthor a disk and keep what I want to keep. I let it encode and then I use RecordNow Max to burn the result. Currently I'm using Memorex 4 speed disks and I record at the lowest speed setting. I then try the disk in both my players and it refuses to load or play.
Memorex uses different manufacturers for their media. For example, with the 4x +R media, they have used both Ricoh-branded Ritek discs and CMC Magnetics discs. Both have quality control issues. CMC Mag media can be excellent, but there are huge variances from batch to batch. Some of their media is just crap. Unfortunately, Ritek seems to be having quality problems lately as well. It seems like they were giving their better media to TDK; Memorex was getting lower grade media. Some of Memorex's Ricoh-branded discs were excellent. Others had issues. They do the same thing with their -R media. Some was manufactured by Taiyo Yuden, others by ProDisc, others by CMC Magnetics.
Anyway, it could be the media. I'd run each disk - the one that works and the one that doesn't - through a program like DVDinfo or another one that reports the disc manufacturer. See if they are both from the same manufacturer. If they are different, it could be that your set-top player likes one but not the other. Or that your DVD writer doesn't like that brand of disc. If they are the same, it might have been just a bad disc.
mrbass
4th March 2004, 03:17
Originally posted by rpboy
Memorex uses different manufacturers for their media. For example, with the 4x +R media, they have used both Ricoh-branded Ritek discs and CMC Magnetics discs. Both have quality control issues. CMC Mag media can be excellent, but there are huge variances from batch to batch. Some of their media is just crap. Unfortunately, Ritek seems to be having quality problems lately as well. It seems like they were giving their better media to TDK; Memorex was getting lower grade media. Some of Memorex's Ricoh-branded discs were excellent. Others had issues.
yep..that blew me away...both were RICOHJPN (TDK and Memorex) ..identical except the memorex wouldn't even burn. It did appear they were using a slightly different dye and perhaps that's the culprit. Ok about 4 or 5 did burn of the memorex outta 150 or so.
rpboy
4th March 2004, 20:42
Originally posted by mrbass
yep..that blew me away...both were RICOHJPN (TDK and Memorex) ..identical except the memorex wouldn't even burn. It did appear they were using a slightly different dye and perhaps that's the culprit. Ok about 4 or 5 did burn of the memorex outta 150 or so.
They shouldn't have been using a different dye. Ritek has two dye processes (for +R media) from what I understand. The one marked RICOH should just use one dye (co-developed with Ricoh), and then Ritek has their own dye. Unless they accidentally used their dye on the RICOH line. I guess that wouldn't surprise me.
Its just a shame how these manufacturers have such lackluster standards. I was a die-hard supporter of Ritek media from when I got my first 2x DVD writer. But after I heard about the problems and quality issues Ritek has been having, its become such a crapshoot.
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