How to remove Linked Cells ?

[djan]

Hi everybody,

I don't know if I can post it here but if I do it it's because I'm using One Click Solutions. I'm trying to fully backup "Hurricane" but there are linked cells. The movie has 22 chapters but the last chapter of the movie if the 13st. After the 13st, all the chapters are cell linked to the begining. So chapter 14 is linked to the 1st chapter of the movie, chapter 15 to the second, ... I don't know why they did that but it takes big place. The movie shows 4 hours when it's only 2 hours and 25 minutes. It's possible to make start and end selection when I make movie only but is there a solution for full backup ? I tried DVDStripper to remove them but as they are linked, when I try to remove chapter 14, it removes chapter 1 too. If anyone can help, it would be nice.

Thx in advance.

[djan]

I think I'm wrong in this story. Does it really take place ? When I think a little more, they are linked, so they just replay what is already there. Lol. :D

Am I right ? Anyway, is it possible to remove these links ? So I want my movie to be in its 13 chapters and not with 9 more fake chapters.

[MackemX]

you can do this by going into the IFO's and modifying the values. The VIDEO_TS.IFO will also need modifying as it also holds the chapter values and programs like IC may barf if you use them

if you wanna be real lazy and not bothered about IC then you could just change the values in the VTS_PGCITI\VTS_PGC_X to Number of Programs=13 : Number of Cells=13 and most softwares will only pick up those 13 chapters

it's best you check the IFO's first of course and make backups ;)

[djan]

Ok, I have to do all that with IFOEdit surely. I'm wondering if tools like IC reencode those linked cells two times ???

[djan]

It's ok, I did it and it works well. I also changed the number of cells. But there is something else I would like to change, it's the Playback Time (BCD) value. It shows 67371606 so 04:04:02.16 / 25 fps. The real movie is only 145 minutes. So how can I find the right Playback Time value if I want it shows 02:25:00 per example ? Thx.

[yuinfo]

Originally posted by djan
It's ok, I did it and it works well. I also changed the number of cells. But there is something else I would like to change, it's the Playback Time (BCD) value. It shows 67371606 so 04:04:02.16 / 25 fps. The real movie is only 145 minutes. So how can I find the right Playback Time value if I want it shows 02:25:00 per example ? Thx.

playback time, BCD, hh:mm:ss:ff with bits 7&6 of frame (last) byte indicating frame rate
11 = 30 fps, 10 = illegal, 01 = 25 fps, 00 = illegal

So, the correct answer to your question is 35192896.

[MackemX]

wouldn't 2:25:00.00 be something like 35979328?

[djan]

How do you calculate it ?

[MackemX]

Ill try to explain it simply :). Start by splitting it into 4 segments

e.g.

02:25:01.23 would be 02 25 01 23

the 1st three numbers of hours, minutes and seconds are HEX values giving 02 25 01

take the last value of 23 frames and split it into 2 digits, 2 & 3

now use a simple calculation

for PAL it's 64+(2*16)+3=64+32+3=99

for NTSC it's 192+(2*16)+3=192+32+3=227

now convert this Decimal value into HEX

PAL=99=63
NTSC=227=E3

this is now the 4th HEX value

so PAL would be 02 25 01 63 and NTSC would be 02 25 01 E3

convert this complete HEX number into Decimal

02250163=35979619
022501E3=35979747

if you are no good with HEX to Decimal conversions just use the Windows calcluator and change the view from standard to scientific using the dropdown menu. You can then use it to convert the values by clicking Hex or Dec

I hope you can follow me :)

[djan]

Yes I can follow you as I already learnd these Hex <-> Dec conversions at school in Electronic studies. :) Thx MackemX.

[yuinfo]

@MackemX:
You are wrong and I'm right :D

02:25:00:00 would be 02 25 00 00 decimal, and 02 19 00 00 hex, and we need hex for calculation. Finaly:
02 19 00 40 = 35192896

See? Regards.

[djan]

Hi guys,

Try your calculation with these values : 67371606 = 04:04:02.16 / 25 fps. We'll see who has reason. ;)

[MackemX]

Originally posted by yuinfo
@MackemX:
You are wrong and I'm right :D

02:25:00:00 would be 02 25 00 00 decimal, and 02 19 00 00 hex, and we need hex for calculation. Finaly:
02 19 00 40 = 35192896

See? Regards. I'm confused now as Ifoedit tells me otherwise as I just checked, so are you sure you are right or am I missing something?

try putting 35192896 into any PGC in Ifoedit and you will get 2:19:00.00 because it doesn't convert the values from Decimal to Hex so 25 is 25 and 19 is 19

we will get there :D but I understand it a lot more now as I was actually working out how it all worked the other day so this little lesson has helped me learn a little so now I don't have to think

cheers :)

p.s. djan using that formula I get

04 04 02 56 = 67371606 as the 56 Hex comes from 64+(1*16)+6=86 decimal

[2COOL]

@yuinfo

Originally posted by yuinfo
playback time, BCD, hh:mm:ss:ff with bits 7&6 of frame (last) byte indicating frame rate
11 = 30 fps, 10 = illegal, 01 = 25 fps, 00 = illegal

So, the correct answer to your question is 35192896.
Inputting your decimal value into IfoEdit gives me 02:19:00.00 / 25 fps.

I have to agree with MackemX's value of 35979328, which also gives me 02:25:00.00 / 25 fps.

[2COOL]

I got bored and came up with a cheat sheet.

AA:BB:CC.DD

Use a scientific calculator in hex mode. Enter the first six, AABBCC. For the DD, use the appropriate table below to add the last two numbers into calculator

So for my example of 02:25:00.00 / 25 fps, I entered a hex value of 02 25 00 40 or 2250040. Select Decimal mode to convert and input this value into IfoEdit. My decimal value for this example is 35979328.

25 fps


.00 = 40 .05 = 45 .10 = 50 .15 = 55 .20 = 60 .25 = 65 .30 = 70 .35 = 75
.01 = 41 .06 = 46 .11 = 51 .16 = 56 .21 = 61 .26 = 66 .31 = 71 .36 = 76
.02 = 42 .07 = 47 .12 = 52 .17 = 57 .22 = 62 .27 = 67 .32 = 72 .37 = 77
.03 = 43 .08 = 48 .13 = 53 .18 = 58 .23 = 63 .28 = 68 .33 = 73 .38 = 78
.04 = 44 .09 = 49 .14 = 54 .19 = .59 .24 = 64 .29 = 69 .34 = 74 .39 = 79

30 fps


.00 = c0 .05 = c5 .10 = d0 .15 = d5 .20 = e0 .25 = e5 .30 = f0 .35 = f5
.01 = c1 .06 = c6 .11 = d1 .16 = d6 .21 = e1 .26 = e6 .31 = f1 .36 = f6
.02 = c2 .07 = c7 .12 = d2 .17 = d7 .22 = e2 .27 = e7 .32 = f2 .37 = f7
.03 = c3 .08 = c8 .13 = d3 .18 = d8 .23 = e3 .28 = e8 .33 = f3 .38 = f8
.04 = c4 .09 = c9 .14 = d4 .19 = d9 .24 = e4 .29 = e9 .34 = f4 .39 = f9

[yuinfo]

@MackemX:
I was wrong, sorry. To redeam myself i've put up small calculator, just paste the code below in Notepad and save it as .html:


<html>
<head>
</head>
<BODY>
<CENTER>
<FORM NAME="Calc">
<TABLE BORDER="1" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1" align="center">
<TR align="center">
<TD align="center">djan's time code calculator (PAL, not NTSC)
</TD>
</TR>
<TR>
<TD>
hr<INPUT TYPE="text" NAME="Input1" Size="2">
min<INPUT TYPE="text" NAME="Input2" Size="2">
sec<INPUT TYPE="text" NAME="Input3" Size="2">
fr<INPUT TYPE="text" NAME="Input4" Size="2">
<INPUT TYPE="button" NAME="DoIt" VALUE=" = " OnClick="Calc.result.value = eval(('0x0' + Calc.Input1.value) * 16777216 + ('0x0' + Calc.Input2.value) * 65536 + ('0x0' + Calc.Input3.value) * 256 + ('0x0' + Calc.Input4.value) * 1 + 64)"><br>
IfoEdit value<INPUT TYPE="text" NAME="result" Size="20">
<INPUT TYPE="button" NAME="clear" VALUE=" clr " OnClick="Calc.Input1.value = Calc.Input2.value = Calc.Input3.value = Calc.Input4.value = Calc.result.value = ''">
</TD>
</TR>
</TABLE>
</FORM>
</BODY>
</html>


Cheers.

[MackemX]

cool :D

cheers guys ;)