LOTR 1 : EE => Duplicated vob => No access to Subtitles

[Geddons]

Hi guys,

I have used the Big3 5 or 6 times without any problem but here is a dvd a little bit more complicated than I saw before.

First, there are "Duplicated VObid" and Difu has automatically remove them. The first one was the duplicated so Difu has removed it.

So I have encoded it without any problem and then update the ifo files. And here is the problem : When I try to access to the movie by the menu, he immediatly says "the story continues on disc 2" (sorry for the translation, but I have got the DVD in french :D ). I think the ifo file try to access to the removed chain (replaced by a dummy chain). So here are my questions :

How to fix that ? Trying to edit the ifo and change the chain which is called ? And if this chain is called by the menu... has difu missed to take the good one ?

Thank you in advance and many thanks to the writter of the Big3'guide on doom9.

Geddons

[Trahald]

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=70238&highlight=lotr


read 1/2 way down

refer to the nemo guide as well

[Geddons]

Originally posted by Trahald
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=70238&highlight=lotr


read 1/2 way down

refer to the nemo guide as well


I have passed to switch the movie access of the menu to the PGC2 with IfoEdit but I can't switch my audio languages excepts by the menus of the dvd and I can't acess to any subtitles I did at all. If I didn't need the subtitles I wouldn't care of that but I need theses subtitles when Aragorn is speaking in Elf language.

Can you give me further informations ?

Thank you
:cool:


edit1 : Sorry for the nemo guide, I have just found it.

[Geddons]

Well, I have read the nemo guide and your topic's reference as well. And I did what it's described so I checked the pgc 2 as I did before and take my subtitles and my audio (1 and 2). But the problem is :

How can I fix the fact that the menu is calling for the PGC 1 (=dummy) and that I can't use my subtitles ? (The audio streams can be switched by DVD's Menu but not by Powerdvd's gui..., the same for the subtitles but I don't see them during the playback)


I have search since yesterday on the net and on this forum for fixing this stupid thing but I didn't find anything :scared: .
Can you help me please , you seem to be a bit more aware of the subject than me ;) .


Thank you in advance,

Geddons

[EonBlue]

Did you leav PGC1 as a dummy or did you recreate the structure in scenarist? If you left PGC1 as a dummy then I don't know how to help you from there...but I do know that if you recreate the structure for PGC1 in scenarist then you shouldn't be having any problems (the nemo guide tells you how to recreate duplicate VOBIDs in scenarist).

[jel]

for clarification:

pgc_1 and pgc_2 contain the same information.
when you select, via the menu, to play the movie, pgc_1 will be played with default 'forced subtitles' containing the elvish translations.
when you select directors commentary, pgc_2 will be played, with default audio and subtitles, which will not contain the forced subtitles of the translations.
now because you only re-authored pgc_2 you cannot access the translations because, by default, they will not be played - or even selectable.
therefore the only way you will get this to work (that i know of) is if you recreate pgc_1 in scenarist.

btw.
in the nemo guide, it would be easier to use the method:
'Recreating the PGC to the Original IFO Structure - Duplicate PGCs Method #2 - The Other White Meat'
although IMHO i would not rename the cells as the structure for pgc_1 and pgc_2 is identical.

[Geddons]

Hum, well, thanks for the exacts replys guys.

But if I don't care about the directors'comments and the other thing and that I simply want the english and french subtitles of the movie and the audio french and english of the movie; Couldn't I simply take the PGC1 if the content is the same ?

[jel]

well.... youve kind of missed the point.
pgc_1 equals pgc_2
you processed pgc_2.
you could have just as easily processed pgc_1.
however it doesnt matter either way.
all you need to do is delete the 'dummy' that has been created for pgc_1, and recreate the EXACT structure as pgc_2 using the tracks/cells/scenes from that pgc.
then your back-up *should* play exactly like the original.

[Geddons]

Originally posted by jel
well.... youve kind of missed the point.
pgc_1 equals pgc_2
you processed pgc_2.
you could have just as easily processed pgc_1.
however it doesnt matter either way.
all you need to do is delete the 'dummy' that has been created for pgc_1, and recreate the EXACT structure as pgc_2 using the tracks/cells/scenes from that pgc.
then your back-up *should* play exactly like the original.

Ok, thanks, I think it would be simplier to encode directly the pgc 01. I wonder only why doitfast4u found a duplicated vob ids and selected the pgc02 as "the more complete"...