Shaneo
23rd January 2004, 07:42
I just backed up my copy of "Open Range" R1 today. the video_ts.vob file is 447 mb's. The dummy video is nothing but pure blank! Just use ifoedit and strip out vob id's 7 and 8. After stripping out the junk, the resultant file size is only 1.7 mb's. I didn't use numenu4u on this one because the main menu menu is only 50 mb's.
Also, I did "Old School" R1 the other day which also has a fake/dummy video_ts.vob. It's around 300 mb's. The blooper real is in there something like 9 times in a row. Numenu4u couldn't detect this one because they set up the menu so that it's legitimate (ie. the vob id's are valid). No bother though....just use ifoedit to strip out vob id's 3, 4, and 5 to bring the file size down to just a hair under 1 mb.
Now for the tip on where to look for them. Since it became knowledge that dummy menus actually exist, I've noticed a trend in where they are usually found. It seem that dvd's done by Universal studios, Disney video, and Touchstone video are the ones where these things keeps showing up most often, and occasionally in Dreamworks Entertainment titles as well. (These studios are all affiliated are they not?).
I've also noticed that these dvd's usually have some features that can not easily be removed or made smaller (and some features you just plain don't wanna remove). Features such as larger complex menus that contain motion video as opposed to still video. This makes for a menu size that is in the neighbourhood of 300 mb's. These titles also usually contain large audio tracks like DTS or some other type of enhanced enhanced audio track (Lion King), that if you are like me, you will not want to lose.
150 mb's is about the size of the average dvd menu nowadays, and 300 for a rather complex menu. If you've got a menu that is over 300 mb's then it may be wise to check out each vob id in the menu to see exactly what they contain. Also, if you've got a main menu that is a couple hundred mb's in size, along with a video_ts.vob file that is also rather large in size, then it's probably a safe bet that you have a dummy video_ts.vob file.
Just sharing knowledge, I hope this is helpful for somebody
-Shaneo
Also, I did "Old School" R1 the other day which also has a fake/dummy video_ts.vob. It's around 300 mb's. The blooper real is in there something like 9 times in a row. Numenu4u couldn't detect this one because they set up the menu so that it's legitimate (ie. the vob id's are valid). No bother though....just use ifoedit to strip out vob id's 3, 4, and 5 to bring the file size down to just a hair under 1 mb.
Now for the tip on where to look for them. Since it became knowledge that dummy menus actually exist, I've noticed a trend in where they are usually found. It seem that dvd's done by Universal studios, Disney video, and Touchstone video are the ones where these things keeps showing up most often, and occasionally in Dreamworks Entertainment titles as well. (These studios are all affiliated are they not?).
I've also noticed that these dvd's usually have some features that can not easily be removed or made smaller (and some features you just plain don't wanna remove). Features such as larger complex menus that contain motion video as opposed to still video. This makes for a menu size that is in the neighbourhood of 300 mb's. These titles also usually contain large audio tracks like DTS or some other type of enhanced enhanced audio track (Lion King), that if you are like me, you will not want to lose.
150 mb's is about the size of the average dvd menu nowadays, and 300 for a rather complex menu. If you've got a menu that is over 300 mb's then it may be wise to check out each vob id in the menu to see exactly what they contain. Also, if you've got a main menu that is a couple hundred mb's in size, along with a video_ts.vob file that is also rather large in size, then it's probably a safe bet that you have a dummy video_ts.vob file.
Just sharing knowledge, I hope this is helpful for somebody
-Shaneo