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ViRuS2k
20th January 2004, 02:41
Hi guys i have no clue what to do i have info edit but i cant seem to figure it out.

im completely a newbie and need like a walkthrough.

basicly all i want to do is remove the trailers from the start of the movie there are 4-5 of the buggers lol

all i want is to insert the dvd into my player and go strait to the animation menu/menu with out haveing to plow through 5 trailers ...

can anyone help it would be even better if there was anyone from the uk that has already done this..... the quality shure does take a hit with those trailers included :(


cheers.........

2COOL
20th January 2004, 03:29
*Edit

Try using this guide (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=48604). If you need to cut down on space and want to replace your trailers with 15 frames of blank, it's easy to do if you know what titlesets they are in. Look in my title stripping guides by clicking on the :eek: in my signature block.

ViRuS2k
20th January 2004, 05:21
Originally posted by 2COOL
*Edit

Try using this guide (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=48604). If you need to cut down on space and want to replace your trailers with 15 frames of blank, it's easy to do if you know what titlesets they are in. Look in my title stripping guides by clicking on the :eek: in my signature block.


thx m8 for the help i actualy already looked at those 2 threads and may i add im mighty impressed with the work you did. but.. let me spell it out for ya lol


(CAN YOU DO A GUIDE FOR THIS FOR THE UTTERLY GULLABLE)

hehe

those guides seem far to advanced for me.
i get confused where what is and what to take out and what numbers and what and what this does and that lol

i will have another look when i get my eyes tested becuse at the minute there very sore after looking at you guides for the past 3 hours hehe....

i hope ya can help me further as you seen to be TO COOL for me :)

2COOL
20th January 2004, 05:35
I can really help you out but I need to get help from you too. Your request is very common and there's probably alot of threads here with methods and fixes. Reading up on terminologies would be of great help as I wouldn't want to waste troubleshooting time trying to explain like,for example, what is a Title or VOB? Don't be discouraged by looking at the guide by all the long writings. It's not that complicated. It shouldn't be. It's in my nature that if it was complicated, I'd have to write more about it to breakdown to newbie level. Again, there are some basics I leave to you to search and learn. It's like trying to help someone with a sentence when the person doesn't know what a noun is.

Since I don't do PAL DVDs and certainly don't have your DVD on hand, I still need to know what titleset your trailer clips (titles) reside in? What part of the guide is confusing you? tell me what steps.

Basically, the first guide I pointed out to you, tells you to look at your status window in your DVD Play Panel while the DVD is playing. I need to know what it is showing. Should be easy to do right?

Oh BTW, it's IfoEdit, not info edit.

ViRuS2k
20th January 2004, 08:00
Ok m8 you should have the ifo`s... in the email.
what i have found out is the following with your (quote)

(Basically, the first guide I pointed out to you, tells you to look at your status window in your DVD Play Panel while the DVD is playing. I need to know what it is showing. Should be easy to do right?)

the status its showing is : Title Set Menu (VTS)

and once i pass all the trailers the jump point is : Title 6 Chapter 1

so basicly thats the location of the point i want my dvd to startup at.

ok now here is the tricky question for me is whats next ? i need to somehow locate the point where the dvd starts and replace its info with the info from above ? is that correct ?

all these ifo`s and bups lol :D

2COOL
20th January 2004, 08:02
Great!

According to your IFOs, your trailers are in VTS_06.

VTS overview:

PGC_1 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 1] [00:15:11.20 / 25 fps] (Programs: 5) (Cells: 5) (uses VOB-IDs: 1)
[Ch 01] [Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 1/ 1] : time: 00:04:20.05 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:04:20.05] [Frames: 6505]
[Ch 02] [Pg 02] [Cell 02] [V/C Id: 1/ 2] : time: 00:04:21.02 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:08:41.07] [Frames: 13032]
[Ch 03] [Pg 03] [Cell 03] [V/C Id: 1/ 3] : time: 00:03:04.07 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:11:45.14] [Frames: 17639]
[Ch 04] [Pg 04] [Cell 04] [V/C Id: 1/ 4] : time: 00:02:51.11 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:14:37.00] [Frames: 21925]
[Ch 05] [Pg 05] [Cell 05] [V/C Id: 1/ 5] : time: 00:00:34.20 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:15:11.20] [Frames: 22795]

PGC_2 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 2] [00:26:43.00 / 25 fps] (Programs: 5) (Cells: 5) (uses VOB-IDs: 4)
[Ch 01] [Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 4/ 1] : time: 00:06:51.22 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:06:51.22] [Frames: 10297]
[Ch 02] [Pg 02] [Cell 02] [V/C Id: 4/ 2] : time: 00:03:26.10 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:10:18.07] [Frames: 15457]
[Ch 03] [Pg 03] [Cell 03] [V/C Id: 4/ 3] : time: 00:05:07.23 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:15:26.05] [Frames: 23155]
[Ch 04] [Pg 04] [Cell 04] [V/C Id: 4/ 4] : time: 00:05:32.09 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:20:58.14] [Frames: 31464]
[Ch 05] [Pg 05] [Cell 05] [V/C Id: 4/ 5] : time: 00:05:44.11 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:26:43.00] [Frames: 40075]

PGC_3 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 3] [00:14:07.12 / 25 fps] (Programs: 1) (Cells: 1) (uses VOB-IDs: 3)
[Ch 01] [Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 3/ 1] : time: 00:14:07.12 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:14:07.12] [Frames: 21187]

PGC_4 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 4] [00:04:07.00 / 25 fps] (Programs: 1) (Cells: 1) (uses VOB-IDs: 2)
[Ch 01] [Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 2/ 1] : time: 00:04:07.00 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:04:07.00] [Frames: 6175]

Open up your VTS_06_0.IFO in IfoEdit and we are to view your chapters. Double left click on each Cell to bring up the VOB Preview. Use the slider. Is it your trailer? Repeat for all chapters in all PGC_#s. Is all that you viewed, you don't want to keep? Is all your trailers in VTS_06? What's in PGC_3 and PGC_4? I assuming PGC_1 and PGC_2 are trailers.

ViRuS2k
20th January 2004, 08:40
Hmmm thats very strange according to when i view all those there the Movies Special Features.

Deleted Sceanes ect.....

there are no trailers there what so ever hehe...........

got any other suggestion where they are ? also what do i do to them once located ? do i just click delete playback ? that will scip em correct ?

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thx for the help so far :)


Originally posted by 2COOL
Great!

According to your IFOs, your trailers are in VTS_06.

VTS overview:

PGC_1 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 1] [00:15:11.20 / 25 fps] (Programs: 5) (Cells: 5) (uses VOB-IDs: 1)
[Ch 01] [Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 1/ 1] : time: 00:04:20.05 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:04:20.05] [Frames: 6505]
[Ch 02] [Pg 02] [Cell 02] [V/C Id: 1/ 2] : time: 00:04:21.02 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:08:41.07] [Frames: 13032]
[Ch 03] [Pg 03] [Cell 03] [V/C Id: 1/ 3] : time: 00:03:04.07 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:11:45.14] [Frames: 17639]
[Ch 04] [Pg 04] [Cell 04] [V/C Id: 1/ 4] : time: 00:02:51.11 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:14:37.00] [Frames: 21925]
[Ch 05] [Pg 05] [Cell 05] [V/C Id: 1/ 5] : time: 00:00:34.20 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:15:11.20] [Frames: 22795]

PGC_2 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 2] [00:26:43.00 / 25 fps] (Programs: 5) (Cells: 5) (uses VOB-IDs: 4)
[Ch 01] [Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 4/ 1] : time: 00:06:51.22 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:06:51.22] [Frames: 10297]
[Ch 02] [Pg 02] [Cell 02] [V/C Id: 4/ 2] : time: 00:03:26.10 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:10:18.07] [Frames: 15457]
[Ch 03] [Pg 03] [Cell 03] [V/C Id: 4/ 3] : time: 00:05:07.23 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:15:26.05] [Frames: 23155]
[Ch 04] [Pg 04] [Cell 04] [V/C Id: 4/ 4] : time: 00:05:32.09 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:20:58.14] [Frames: 31464]
[Ch 05] [Pg 05] [Cell 05] [V/C Id: 4/ 5] : time: 00:05:44.11 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:26:43.00] [Frames: 40075]

PGC_3 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 3] [00:14:07.12 / 25 fps] (Programs: 1) (Cells: 1) (uses VOB-IDs: 3)
[Ch 01] [Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 3/ 1] : time: 00:14:07.12 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:14:07.12] [Frames: 21187]

PGC_4 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 4] [00:04:07.00 / 25 fps] (Programs: 1) (Cells: 1) (uses VOB-IDs: 2)
[Ch 01] [Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 2/ 1] : time: 00:04:07.00 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:04:07.00] [Frames: 6175]

Open up your VTS_06_0.IFO in IfoEdit and we are to view your chapters. Double left click on each Cell to bring up the VOB Preview. Use the slider. Is it your trailer? Repeat for all chapters in all PGC_#s. Is all that you viewed, you don't want to keep? Is all your trailers in VTS_06? What's in PGC_3 and PGC_4? I assuming PGC_1 and PGC_2 are trailers.

ViRuS2k
20th January 2004, 08:42
ok i have located i think all the trailers...

there in VTS _2.0

only problem is when i deleted em all (delete playback)

and go to start the dvd it for some reason still plays the trailers lol now im realy confused Hmm

2COOL
20th January 2004, 08:46
Originally posted by ViRuS2k
ok i have located i think all the trailers...

there in VTS _2.0

only problem is when i deleted em all (delete playback)

and go to start the dvd it for some reason still plays the trailers lol now im realy confused Hmm I see three trailers in your VTS_02. I thought you said you had 4 or 5? Does each chapter contain 2 trailers each? I'm referring to 1,2, and 3.

ViRuS2k
20th January 2004, 09:08
ok here as follows m8
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The first trailer is : alien the directors cut
in :Title 4 CHapter 1

2nd is : LXG in Title 4 Chapter 2

3rd is : The Sin Eater in Title 4 Chapter 3

4th is : Wrong Turn in Title 4 Chapter 6

5th is : Spun in Title 4 Chapter 6

6th is : In The Cut in Title 4 Chapter 6

7th is : MENU Title 6 Chapter 1


OMG talk about a waste of quality over all this CRAP lol

i see there are 3 trailers in title 4 chapter 6 ?

2COOL
20th January 2004, 09:24
Originally posted by ViRuS2k
The first trailer is : alien the directors cut
in :Title 4 CHapter 1

2nd is : LXG in Title 4 Chapter 2

3rd is : The Sin Eater in Title 4 Chapter 3

4th is : Wrong Turn in Title 4 Chapter 6

5th is : Spun in Title 4 Chapter 6

6th is : In The Cut in Title 4 Chapter 6

7th is : MENU Title 6 Chapter 1 Great! Now we're going somewhere. Since all your trailers are confirmed in this VTS_02, here's one way you can do.


PGC_1 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 1] [00:01:48.12 / 25 fps] (Programs: 2) (Cells: 2) (uses VOB-IDs: 1,4)
[Ch 01] [Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 1/ 1] : time: 00:01:48.00 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:01:48.00] [Frames: 2700]
[Ch 05] [Pg 02] [Cell 02] [V/C Id: 4/ 1] Layer Br.: time: 00:00:00.12 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:01:48.12] [Frames: 2712]

PGC_2 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 1] [00:01:05.12 / 25 fps] (Programs: 2) (Cells: 2) (uses VOB-IDs: 2,4)
[Ch 02] [Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 2/ 1] : time: 00:01:05.00 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:01:05.00] [Frames: 1625]
[Ch 04] [Pg 02] [Cell 02] [V/C Id: 4/ 1] Layer Br.: time: 00:00:00.12 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:01:05.12] [Frames: 1637]

PGC_3 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 1] [00:01:53.12 / 25 fps] (Programs: 2) (Cells: 2) (uses VOB-IDs: 3,4)
[Ch 03] [Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 3/ 1] : time: 00:01:53.00 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:01:53.00] [Frames: 2825]
[Ch 06] [Pg 02] [Cell 02] [V/C Id: 4/ 1] Layer Br.: time: 00:00:00.12 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:01:53.12] [Frames: 2837]

chapters 4,5, & 6 are the same Vob and Cell Id, 4/1. And it is a blank cell too. We'll just remove VOB IDs 1,2, & 3 which are highlighted in RED.

With VTS_02_0.IFO open, got topside and click on VOB EXtras / Strip VOB-IDs. All you need to do in next window is provide a destination folder. Click OK to continue. Check ONLY VOB-ID 4 and deselect the others. Click "Strip it" button. When done, in your destination folder, drag all these new files back into your original folder to replace your old ones. Click on "Get VTS Sectors" button. Play to test. ;)

ViRuS2k
20th January 2004, 10:03
woohoo dunno what i did but im on a roll now lol :)

i have stripped out the Warning page then i have stripped out all the trailers now all that comes up is the animation menu then the proper menu :)

ok what i need next is to strip out 2 audio tracks

1 for hard of hearing and the other for creepers comentery....

only comentery i want in the movie is the directors and the main movie 5.1 digital tracks...

got any clue ???? hehe it cant be as hard as the above...

btw thanks your a great asset to this forum :)