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ZIZZI
19th January 2004, 13:14
Hello, i have ulead WORKSHOP and i need to create a DVD with subtitles but i see that doesn't support them... do you know a software that support them?
bu i need:
1) that as background of the menù it's possible to insert clips, to create animated menù.
2) that's possible to create small windows of animated preview of charapter.

these two functions, workshop can support them very well.

do you konw a software that have this 2 points and implements also the sub?

thnak you!

Excuseme for my poor english!!

Matthew
23rd January 2004, 00:43
Well you could use DVDMaestro, but:

"2) that's possible to create small windows of animated preview of charapter."

You'd need to do that yourself and then import into Maestro. Although you could possibly, for example, create them in Ulead, compile, use VobEdit to extract out the videos and then import them into Maestro.

Higher end authoring apps typically make you do all the preparation of assets.

Sakuya
6th February 2004, 03:13
I have the same problem. I want to put selectable subtitles for a movie on DVD as well as simple still menus but I just can't find a program that does it all. Are there individual programs that can do each separately and then another program to bring it all together in the end to burn? :(

TheJez
6th February 2004, 09:09
IFO-Edit can be used to create a simple DVD (no menus, just video-stream, audio stream(s) and subtitle stream(s)). Then you could import the created ifo/vobs in DVDLab (professional version), and add menus. I've never tried it, but I think it should work...

Take care,

TheJez

From the DVDLab History Page:
- Import second VTS (menus+movie(s)) directly from any previously compiled project (loading the VTS_xx_0.IFO). This is a great new way to build multiple VTS DVD by simply first building one normal single VTS project, testing it, then use the compiled result directly as a second VTS in a new project. This way will add flexibility to the whole authoring process where you won't need to touch or recompile already working part.

Sakuya
23rd March 2004, 04:31
All I have is TMPGEnc DVD Authoring and Nero. After creating the selectable subtitles in IFOedit, can I import it into TMPGEnc DVD Authoring and then add still menus for chapter selections there? Also, how do I go about making trailers with a menu? :scared:

Here is the description for TMPGEnc DVD Authoring:
Import program video stream, Import elemantary streams, Import DVD-Video, MPEG2 video, MPEG1 video, VCD video (no video reconverting), WAV/PCM audio, MPEG1 Layer 2 audio, AC3 5.1 audio, AC3 Stereo/Mono audio, Menus, Motion menus, Template menus, Several tracks / separate VTS, Chapters, Chapter editor, Chapter screenshot for menus, Video editor, Anamorphic 16:9, Burn, Audio MPEG1 encoder, Audio AC3 Stereo/Mono encoder - AC3 Plugin., Import MPEG1(VCD), Author tool still active,

I have to ask, it says "several tracks/separate VTS", what does that apply to? Several audio tracks or subtitle tracks? What are VTS?

Dimmer
23rd March 2004, 04:49
Originally posted by Sakuya
All I have is TMPGEnc DVD Authoring and Nero. After creating the selectable subtitles in IFOedit, can I import it into TMPGEnc DVD Authoring and then add still menus for chapter selections there? Also, how do I go about making trailers with a menu?No, TMPGEnc DVD Author strips the subtitles. You should try DVDLab if you don't want to learn Scenarist/Maestro or at least ReelDVD. What do you mean by trailers with a menu? If you're talking about motion/animated menus along with subtitles on the same disc, I don't believe there is any simple program for that, you'll have to use more serious software mentioned above.I have to ask, it says "several tracks/separate VTS", what does that apply to? Several audio tracks or subtitle tracks? What are VTS?This means it always creates a separate VideoTitleSet for each title. You should learn some basics about DVD structure, here's a good place to start: http://www.dvd-replica.com/DVD/index.php

Sakuya
23rd March 2004, 09:28
I'm trying to create a movie that uses custom made still menus. I need menus for the chapter selection and the trailer selection. Trailers are the extra video clips that I add. A menu for the subtitle selection is optional but if there is a way, I won't hesitate to do it! If not, I can settle for subtitle selection on my remote.

Is it possible to make the subs and author with IFOedit, then import into TMPGEnc DVD Authoring (is that possible?) or DVD Lab to set the menus, etc? I don't know if DVD Lab supports the video extras though. :( They're in normal VCD MPEG-1 format.

Dimmer
23rd March 2004, 09:59
Originally posted by Sakuya
Is it possible to make the subs and author with IFOedit, then import into TMPGEnc DVD Authoring (is that possible?) or DVD Lab to set the menus, etc? I don't know if DVD Lab supports the video extras though. :( They're in normal VCD MPEG-1 format.You don't need to author in IfoEdit, just do everything in DVDLab. TMPGEnc DVD Author won't do; it will remove any subtitles you might have.

Mtz
23rd March 2004, 11:16
With all this programs you can use subtiles converted with Subtitle Workshop.

1. Ulead DVD Workshop 2.0 (.txt save as Ulead DVD Workshop)
2. Sonic DVD Producer (.sub save as Sonic DVD Creator)
3. Adobe Encore DVD (.txt save as Adobe Encore)
4. Pinnacle Impression DVD Pro (.txt save as Pinnacle Impression)

5. Maestro (.stl save as Spruce Subtile)
6. Scenarist (.sst save as Sonic Scenarist)

Arky
23rd March 2004, 14:56
Originally posted by Matthew
Well you could use DVDMaestro, but:

"2) that's possible to create small windows of animated preview of charapter."

You'd need to do that yourself and then import into Maestro. Although you could possibly, for example, create them in Ulead, compile, use VobEdit to extract out the videos and then import them into Maestro.

Higher end authoring apps typically make you do all the preparation of assets.

I would generally agree, but the one exception I can think of to this is DVD Studio Pro 2. It is basically Maestro ported to the MAC, but with many additional user-friendly features - notably, the possibility to composite assets from right within the menu editor (e.g. 'Drop Zones')), and at fair image quality, too.


Arky ;o)

Sakuya
24th March 2004, 06:38
What about Pinnacle Expression or Ulead VideoStudio? :( On another forum, a user suggested that I use NeroVision Express 2. Would that work? If not, how long is the trial for DVD Lab? :(

maa
25th March 2004, 21:10
Originally posted by Sakuya
If not, how long is the trial for DVD Lab? :(
30 days - don't worry you'll feel better when you've bought it :)

Sakuya
26th March 2004, 00:14
Do you know how expensive it is? :eek: I will have to get more paychecks before I will be able to purchase it. :o

Arky
26th March 2004, 02:18
Originally posted by Sakuya
Do you know how expensive it is? :eek: I will have to get more paychecks before I will be able to purchase it. :o

DVDlab is a BARGAIN!


Arky ;o)

Sakuya
10th April 2004, 22:22
Originally posted by TheJez
[B]IFO-Edit can be used to create a simple DVD (no menus, just video-stream, audio stream(s) and subtitle stream(s)). Then you could import the created ifo/vobs in DVDLab (professional version), and add menus. I've never tried it, but I think it should work...

Take care,

TheJez

Ok, I downloaded the trial versions of DVD-lab as well as DVD-lab PRO. DVD-lab does not support subs but PRO does. Anyway, about your IFOedit+DVDlab technique, how do I go about doing that?

Do I just select the video, audio, subtitle, and chapter points in IFOedit, then use DVD-lab to import the stuff from IFOedit and add menus? And how do I know the subtitles won't end up green? How do I import IFO/VOB files? :confused:

Edit:
Also, how do you add chapter points in IFOedit? Their numbers confuse me because the hours, minutes, and seconds are not separated by a semicolon. :o And I'm making specific chapter points too. In DVD-lab, I exported saved a set of chapter points as a TXT file. Would that work in IFOedit?

Sakuya
11th April 2004, 01:32
Ok, I multiplexed the video, audio, and subtitle in IFOedit. In DVD-lab PRO, I imported it. It asked me whether I wanted to demultiplex, not demultiplex, or join VOB. So I joined the VOB. In the manual, it says this:

Joining VOB files:
When importing source VOB files, DVD-lab offers a third option. That is, for DVD-lab to join together source program VOB files into one rather large but continuous file. VOB files are divided into 1GB blocks for compatibility with older systems. For joining purposes, DVD-lab requires that your first selected file is the first of the VTS_ named files such as VTS_XX_1.VOB. If you were to then select file names: VTS_XX_1.VOB , VTS_XX_2.VOB, VTS_XX3.VOB (etc.) and Drag & Drop these files into your Assets / Video & Audio bin, DVD-lab will offer a third option to join all sequential VOBs. When this option is selected, a prompt appears for the disk location of the resulting joined.VOB file which will be a very large file. Consider going out to lunch when this process starts.

When joining is completed. you will notice a joined.VOB file in your Assets / Video & Audio bin. To make this joined.VOB file into compliant elementary stream files, first remove it from your Assets / Video & Audio bin with the red X (Remove Asset). Recall that this removal just takes the file out of your bin but does not delete the file from your disk. Next, open the DVD-lab File Manager, find the joined.VOB file and double-click it to start the demultiplexing dialog as above.

So I double-clicked the JOINED.VOB and demultiplexed it. Now, I ended up with a JOINED.MPV and a JOINED.AC3. I dragged those two files into the Movie 1 window. Whatever happened to the subtitle stream? No matter, I just generate a subtitle stream using my SRT file. After that, I add my menus. Then I compile. Is that correct? :confused: Yes, DVD-lab PRO supports subtitles and menus which is basically what I want. But when I go to author (or in this case, they call it compile), it muxes, and then it finishes without writing the VOBs. I don't know why, it doesn't output in the specified folder. When I do a compiling of smaller video clips and not the movie, it compiles and outputs. :angry: