A/V sync issue / first time problem w/DVD2SVCD

[BugsBunny]

"i been researching a/v sync issues before posting, im comming up short on a solution"

I been using this gem for awhile dvd2svcd and swear by it, for the most part my stuff is great.
i have an .img dvd-r of aliens the directors cut, tried this 4 times always out of sync after the conversion. i tried burning the bin/cues and running them from D-tools, out of sync in both and on a standalone as well.
the .img file plays great no sync issues with it, so i am confused on this one.
i stopped by irc and managed to get kicked but no assistance :(
i tried v-strip & internal routines same thing, the finished product is out of sync.
any help would be appreciated
Thanks

heres a logfile, i noticed it was asked for in other topics

WNASPI32.DLL 4.71.2.0
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- 1/14/2004 12:41:20 AM
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2SVCD ver. 1.1.0 build 1
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Initializing
Initializing finished.

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- 1/14/2004 12:41:23 AM
- Free on drive D: 14072.52 mb
- Internal rip
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Preparing vobfiles to be ripped:
- V:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.vob
- V:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.vob
- V:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.vob
- V:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.vob

Ripping: V:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.vob
Ripping: V:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.vob
Ripping: V:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.vob
Ripping: V:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.vob
Ripping finished. Speed: 8412

Trying to eject the DVD
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- 1/14/2004 12:49:27 AM
- DVD2AVI
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Creating DVD2AVI INI file:
- D:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.INI

Variable settings:
iDCT_Algorithm: 32-bit SSE MMX

Executing DVD2AVI.
Executing DVD2AVI. Commandline:
"D:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.exe" -CS=2 -YR=1 -EXIT -OF=[D:\temp\dvd2svcd\DVD2AVI_Project_file] -IF=[D:\temp\dvd2svcd\VTS_01_1.vob,D:\temp\dvd2svcd\VTS_01_2.vob,D:\temp\dvd2svcd\VTS_01_3.vob,D:\temp\dvd2svcd\VTS_01_4.vob]
Framerate: 25000
DVD2AVI processing done.

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- 1/14/2004 12:51:06 AM
- Free on drive D: 10112.17 mb
- AUDIO Extraction
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Found AC3 stream id: 0x80
Filename: D:\temp\dvd2svcd\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Audio1 delay: -96 ms
Audio extraction finished.

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- 1/14/2004 12:54:01 AM
- Free on drive D: 9756.23 mb
- AUDIO conversion
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Encoding Audio. Filename: D:\temp\dvd2svcd\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Executing BeSweet. Commandline:
"D:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "D:\temp\dvd2svcd\Extracted_audio_1.ac3" -output "D:\temp\dvd2svcd\Encoded_audio_1.mp2" -logfile "D:\temp\dvd2svcd\Encoded_audio_1.log" ) -azid( -L -3db -c normal -s surround -g max ) -ota( -d -96 ) -2lame( -e -b 192 -m s )
Audio conversion of D:\temp\dvd2svcd\Extracted_audio_1.ac3 finished.

Audio conversion finished.

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- 1/14/2004 1:04:50 AM
- Free on drive D: 9603.66 mb
- Converting Pictures
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Converting: D:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\TitlePicture.bmp
Converting: D:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\ChangeCDPicture.bmp
Converting: D:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\TitlePicture.bmp
Finished converting pictures
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- 1/14/2004 1:05:00 AM
- Free on drive D: 9602.58 mb
- Video Encoding using Cinema Craft
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Executing Cinema Craft Encoder.
StreamSectors: 1663691176
AudioSectors: 162368584
VideoPAPO: 23256288
ScanOffsetBytes: 199951
SeqAligningBytes: 12708010
DVDBytes: 0
VideoEndHeader: 8
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 900.00
PureMPEGStream: 1465158335.20
Seconds: 6675.04
CalcMPEGStream: 1465158335.20
Frames: 166626
CDSize: 800.00
Number of CDs: 2
Cut point 795.00
Variable Settings:
Frames: 166626
Anti Noise Filter: Off
Passes: 4
Image Quality: 17
VAF file creation: On
Video Encoding Mode: Multipass VBR
Min. bitrate: 300
Max. bitrate: 2530
Avg. Bitrate: 1755
Aspect Ratio: 16:9 (borders added, encoded as 4:3)

---AVS Begin---
LoadPlugin("D:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\MPEG2Dec\MPEG2DEC.dll")
mpeg2source("D:\temp\dvd2svcd\DVD2AV~1.D2V")
BicubicResize(480,432,0,0)
AddBorders(0,72,0,72)
----AVS End----

Closing program
CCE Max Speed: 1.600
Video Encoding finished.

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- 1/14/2004 6:56:07 AM
- Free on drive D: 8167.28 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: D:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"D:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "D:\temp\dvd2svcd\TitlePicture.bmp.mpg"
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- 1/14/2004 6:56:11 AM
- Free on drive D: 8167.22 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: D:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"D:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "D:\temp\dvd2svcd\ChangeCDPicture.bmp.mpg"
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- 1/14/2004 6:56:14 AM
- Free on drive D: 8167.17 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: D:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"D:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "D:\temp\dvd2svcd\LastCDPicture.bmp.mpg"
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- 1/14/2004 6:56:17 AM
- Free on drive D: 8167.13 mb
- Multiplexing and cutting
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Saving bbMPEG settings: D:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
Offset in Seconds: 0
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 0 seconds
Cut point: 795 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"D:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "D:\temp\dvd2svcd\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Length of D:\temp\dvd2svcd\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
3401 Seconds
Offset in Seconds: 3401
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 0 seconds
Cut point: 795 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"D:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "D:\temp\dvd2svcd\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Multiplexing and cutting finished.

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- 1/14/2004 7:04:51 AM
- Free on drive D: 6583.28 mb
- Determining length of audio
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Analyzing: D:\temp\dvd2svcd\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
3404.088 seconds D:\temp\dvd2svcd\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
Analyzing: D:\temp\dvd2svcd\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
3262.461 seconds D:\temp\dvd2svcd\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
Analyzing finished.

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- 1/14/2004 7:05:39 AM
- Free on drive D: 6583.27 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 56

CD image #1: CD_Image_File_CD1.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"D:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\vcdxbuild.exe" --verbose --cue-file="D:\temp\dvd2svcd\CD_Image_File_CD1.cue" --bin-file="D:\temp\dvd2svcd\CD_Image_File_CD1.bin" "D:\temp\dvd2svcd\VCDXBU~1.XML"
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- 1/14/2004 7:07:51 AM
- Free on drive D: 6571.64 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 54

CD image #2: CD_Image_File_CD2.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"D:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\vcdxbuild.exe" --verbose --cue-file="D:\temp\dvd2svcd\CD_Image_File_CD2.cue" --bin-file="D:\temp\dvd2svcd\CD_Image_File_CD2.bin" "D:\temp\dvd2svcd\VCDXBU~2.XML"
CD-Image creation finished.

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- 1/14/2004 7:11:29 AM
- Free on drive D: 6560.45 mb
- SVCD Creation finished!
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[Venom_IL]

I really have no idea, but have you tried double clicking SVCD in the BBMPEG advanced settings ? maybe the sync is lost in the multiplexing ?? :confused:

really this is just a wild, wild guess, nothing more :(

there's also this from the Q&A, though i guess youve already read it, ah well


Q24: My audio and video are not synced
A: This rarely happens. The most common reason is when a DVD have been ripped with an external ripper (like Smartripper). Always us internal routines when possible. (In the new DVD2SVCD versions, you can select "Rip Only" and convert the ripped vob files later). Another reason could be that a trailer is as the first chapter on the DVD (like Swordfish).

IMPORTANT Note!: There is the possibility of A/V sync issues due to a bug in in DVD2AVI. Adding extras or doing seperate episodes are most likely to have this issue, but regular movies can have this problem as well. If you are having A/V sync problems check the chapters of the DVD and make sure there are no chapters that do not have any length to them. If so and they are the first or last chapters re-rip the DVD without these chapters. If this does not fix the problem or this does not apply to your DVD then the only way to encode this will be to treat each side as a different DVD

Q52: My audio and video are out of sync from a DVD I ripped is there something to try right away?
A: Check to see if this applies to you first. Select internal routines to rip, click on the time shown on the conversion tab and see if the first chapter has a 0 value. If it does uncheck it and start over.

[BugsBunny]

Thanks, for the post.
i tried again last nite using that "D2SRoBa" plug in.
it ripped it with dvd decrypter, i chose the settings from the basics forum on this plug in posted here.

there is a bunch of stuff at the begining of the DVD but that is stripped out, but is typical.

i only add my picture in place of the std dvd2svcd's title picture & cd change picture. no other tampering other then that, just a basic svcd.

checked, none of the chapters have a zero value, all have a time assigned.

i have no knowledge who the "ripper" & what was used to rip the dvd-r .img file, although i suspect its a cloneDVD file, but shows no sync problems in PowerDVD when mounted in D-tools & played.
i have tried this movie with: internal routines, v-strip & dvd decryptor w/o success.

[Venom_IL]

is there a way to uncompress the .img to straight OUT vobs and IFOs on the hard-drive? and use D2S on them ?

[BugsBunny]

Just checked WinIso puked but WinRar extracted the .img file w/o a hitch.


Contents of N:\movies\Alien DVDR\efterlyst-alien\img\VIDEO_TS\
At 1/15/2004 10:56:16 AM 22 Files 4.11 GB
VIDEO_TS.BUP 18 KB [A] 11/26/2003 5:01:12 PM
VIDEO_TS.IFO 18 KB [A] 11/26/2003 5:01:12 PM
VIDEO_TS.VOB 666 KB [A] 11/26/2003 5:01:12 PM
VTS_01_0.BUP 126 KB [A] 11/26/2003 5:01:12 PM
VTS_01_0.IFO 126 KB [A] 11/26/2003 5:01:12 PM
VTS_01_0.VOB 50.33 MB [A] 11/26/2003 5:01:12 PM
VTS_01_1.VOB 1023.99 MB [A] 11/26/2003 5:01:12 PM
VTS_01_2.VOB 1023.99 MB [A] 11/26/2003 5:01:12 PM
VTS_01_3.VOB 1023.99 MB [A] 11/26/2003 5:01:12 PM
VTS_01_4.VOB 992.97 MB [A] 11/26/2003 5:01:12 PM
VTS_02_0.BUP 14 KB [A] 11/26/2003 5:01:12 PM
VTS_02_0.IFO 14 KB [A] 11/26/2003 5:01:12 PM
VTS_02_1.VOB 31.17 MB [A] 11/26/2003 5:01:12 PM
VTS_03_0.BUP 14 KB [A] 11/26/2003 5:01:12 PM
VTS_03_0.IFO 14 KB [A] 11/26/2003 5:01:12 PM
VTS_03_1.VOB 25.93 MB [A] 11/26/2003 5:01:12 PM
VTS_04_0.BUP 14 KB [A] 11/26/2003 5:01:12 PM
VTS_04_0.IFO 14 KB [A] 11/26/2003 5:01:12 PM
VTS_04_1.VOB 23.78 MB [A] 11/26/2003 5:01:12 PM
VTS_05_0.BUP 14 KB [A] 11/26/2003 5:01:12 PM
VTS_05_0.IFO 14 KB [A] 11/26/2003 5:01:12 PM
VTS_05_1.VOB 13.87 MB [A] 11/26/2003 5:01:12 PM

[Venom_IL]

Originally posted by Venom_IL
is there a way to uncompress the .img to straight OUT vobs and IFOs on the hard-drive? and use D2S on them ?

:sly:

[MrMagooba]

I used to have sync problems (on 1st disc of SVCD's, very slight but very noticable), when it suddenly occoured to me the the picture on the 1st disc caused the delay (no delay on the 2nd).

I stopped the encoding of the pic and all is now sync'd perfectly.

Give that a go and see if it works.