Getting too large file with newbie settings?

[Henry The Ripper]

Hi!

I've tried to encode a movie to 1 CD with xvid (latest 26.12.2003) and I have tried many setting combinations, but I always end-up with about 750Mb file even without sound.

I've put 630784 in the Target Filesize field and I assume it is like always that the filesize should be without sound.

I have a mp3 file to be muxed with the avi, but the size is 76Mb so the final size would be way off 700Mb.

What could cause the problem?

[mikeX]

have you been messing around with zones??
could you be a bit more specific, give some of your settings for example, what programs you are using, source, avs script etc

(ps probably a stupid question but are you sure the box left to where you put your desired size says 'Target Size' and not 'Target Bitrate'?)

[Henry The Ripper]

Maybe a dumb question also, but what are the zones?

Yes, I use target size.

Programs are GKnot and VirtualDub 1.05.10.

My settings are the same as suggested in the Newbie guide, with couple of exeptions.

I use hvs.good.picture.matrix and couple of filters (those I am not shore if I've done the right in the .avs script

#
# Created with Gordian Knot
#
# http://gknot.doom9.org
#
# PLUGINS
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\mpeg2dec3.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\undot.dll")
#LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\decomb.dll")
#LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\KernelDeInt.dll")
#LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\dgbob.dll")
#LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\Convolution3d.dll")
#LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\FluxSmooth.dll")
#LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\TomsMoComp.dll")
#LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\VSFilter.dll")
#LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\SimpleResize.dll")
#LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\asharp.dll")
#LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\Deen.dll")
#
# SOURCE
mpeg2source("E:\DVD\Rips\re-animator_VTS_01_PGC1\re-animator.d2v")
#
# TRIM
#trim(startframe,endframe)
#
# IVTC
#Telecide(order=1,guide=1).Decimate()
# or use
#IVTC(44,11,95)
#GreedyHMA(1,0,4,0,0,0,0,0)
#
# CROPPING
crop(0,6,720,468)
#
# DEINTERLACING (1)
#FieldDeinterlace()
#FieldDeinterlace(blend=false)
#TomsMoComp(1,5,1)
#
# DEINTERLACING (2)
#KernelDeInt(order=1,sharp=true)
# or maybe
#DGBob(order=1,mode=0)
# DEINTERLACING (3) - special requests
#GreedyHMA(1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0)
#Telecide()
#SeparateFields()
#
#
# SUBTITLES
#VobSub("FileName")
#
# RESIZING
LanczosResize(640,352)
#
Undot()
#
# DENOISING: choose one combination (or none)
# 1) little noise
#Temporalsoften(2,3,3,mode=2,scenechange=6)
#mergechroma(blur(1.3))
#FluxSmooth(5,7)
#
#
# 2) medium noise
#Temporalsoften(3,5,5,mode=2,scenechange=10)
#Convolution3d("moviehq")
#FluxSmooth(7,7)
#
# 3) heavy noise
#Temporalsoften(4,8,8,mode=2,scenechange=10)
#Convolution3d("movielq")
#FluxSmooth(10,15)
#
#
# BORDERS
#AddBorders(left,top,right,bottom)
#
# COMPRESSIBILITY CHECK
# !!!!Snip Size now has to be 14 for use in GKnot!
#SelectRangeEvery(280,14)
#
# FOOL CCEnc
#empty = BlankClip()
#AudioDub(last,empty)
#
#Undot ()
#Deen("a3d",1,5,5)
#asharp(2,4)

[mikeX]

check out the xvid 1 guide at doom9:
http://www.doom9.org/xvid-vdub-final.htm

make sure you don't use Gordian Knot to pass your settings to VirtualDub & XviD (use it to make the .avs file and then open that with VirtualDub)
Also, try not using job control in VirtualDub if you still get problems (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=428714#post428714)

noise removal filters like undot() should have the oposite effect on your movie (make it smaller and more compressable that is)
you might wannna try h.263 matrix too

make sure you don't restrict your quantizers in any way (should be at defaults 2-31 -- if for example you have set max P frame quantizer at 7 and the codec needs to use some P frame quantizers at 12 to achieve the desired size it's gonna come out oversized)