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The Edge
12th January 2004, 18:13
Woooohoooo......I've a A06.
If true, fair play Pioneer!

Babelfished here. (http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/urltrurl?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.watch.impress.co.jp%2Fav%2Fdocs%2F20040109%2Fces06.htm&lp=ja_en&tt=url)

:D

chipvideo
13th January 2004, 07:06
Dog Gammit, somebody hurry up and give us a hack to record the dual layer discs when they are avaible.

DVD decrypter should have one laying around soon I hope.

spruceland
14th January 2004, 05:28
Wouldn't it be cool if it burned regular dvd-r discs into dual layered discs:)

Kedirekin
14th January 2004, 13:45
That would be cool.

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

- ARTHUR C. CLARKE, The Lost Worlds of 2001

hendrix
25th January 2004, 16:44
Originally posted by Kedirekin
That would be cool.

i dont think cool is the right word for it...but it would be cool:D

The Edge
25th January 2004, 23:45
This firmware will not be released to the general public.
There are licencing issues. When you bought your 106, you didn't pay for dual layer burning, and that prevents Pioneer from letting you burn anything dual. As far as I know, before you can burn any type of media with a DVD drive, you need to have bought various licenses (which are included in the retail price):
You want to burn for 1x -> you have to pay the DVD-Forum for 1x burning of DVD-R media. 2x, 4x, 8x? Same thing (individual licence I think). -RW -> one more license to pay. +R/+RW -> yet another license for Philips & sony this time.
So I wouldn't expect anything different for dual layer format, and once the dual DVD-R format has been approved by the DVD Forum, you will be required to have paid for a license format to be able tot burn dual.
Unfortunately, when you bought your DVR-106 (or DVR-107), you won't pay for the dual layer burning license.
If this firmware is released it will be illegal. Could be a year or more if it does arrive.

RocKerDucK
31st January 2004, 12:42
This problem could be solved paying for the firmware update...

There's a burner factory (I don't remember which one... maybe BTC) that has relased a firmware update for its burner but you have to pay for it.
This update allow to make the burner a dual mode one... (was originally a single mode...) so yuo're not paying for the firmware but for the new DVD+R license

vijv
3rd February 2004, 21:34
do u think that the nec 1300a could do dual layer burning cos the only thing you need to do is raise the power output. if the 1300a can match the max level of the 106 then this should be possible. what does anybody think?

windtrader
3rd February 2004, 22:27
It's just a scam so they can get a run of buyers on the 106 to clear their overproduction problem.

Elrik
4th February 2004, 10:01
I've read on CDFreaks forums that the AO6 that Pioneer demonstrated also had HARDWARE modification besides an updated firmware. But the complete info on the whole deal is sketchy.

Doom9
4th February 2004, 19:21
In the latest c't they wrote (specifically) that hardware modifications were necessary, and that neither the A06 nor the A07 can/will be upgraded. Furthermore, only the A09 which will be released at the end of 2004 will do dual layer DVD-R, at 1x speed, and writing regular DVD-Rs at 16x. So we can expect a A08 in between, offering either 12x or 16x DVD-R speed before the end of the year.

alexnoe
4th February 2004, 22:04
If Pioneer didn't claim that they modified the drive now as well, they would have to release that update (or make a bigger fool of themselves than they now do).

IMHO They do not want to release such an update, even if it should be possible, and now just try to achieve that not too many people are angry with them