At what speed do you burn your backups?

[daehkcid]

Hi,

I heard that for mpeg burning, the lower the speed, the better. So i burn my dvds at 1x. But i wonder if it's a false myth.

:P

[sundance]

imo, burning quality only depends on your recorder/media combination rather than content. I didn't find any problems with quality in my own recordings (1x or 4x) as long as you have reliable media with your recorder.

[sundance]

[sorry, double post]

[StrawMan]

I burn as fast as my media allows, or faster in some cases.

[ablindog]

Never had a bit of trouble burning at 4x, so until or unless I have issues I will continue.

HR

[Yannis]

Ritek never gave me any trouble at any speed. For cheap and/or bad brands though the higher the speed, the higher the frequency of the occuring problems (freezing, blocks, etc) on the various players (standalone or PC). And (of course) I only burn with ImgTools & Decrypter!

[Imperial Zeppelin]

Most of my recent burns have been providing game DVDs of our HS's soccer team. Since these DVDs go to a large and diverse audience, the last thing I want to hear is "It didn't play on my player." Towards that end I burn exclusively at 1X using good media (Ritek G03).

I've yet to hear, "It didn't play..." Could I try 2X or higher, yes, but after screwing around many hours to get something to burn, I don't think the extra 25 minutes per disc is really too much of a burden.

Call me old fashioned, I even include a blank AUDIO_TS folder, but my success rate is too high to induce any adventure...

Zep

[Grover]

Originally posted by Imperial Zeppelin
Most of my recent burns have been providing game DVDs of our HS's soccer team. Since these DVDs go to a large and diverse audience, the last thing I want to hear is "It didn't play on my player." Towards that end I burn exclusively at 1X using good media (Ritek G03).

I've yet to hear, "It didn't play..." Could I try 2X or higher, yes, but after screwing around many hours to get something to burn, I don't think the extra 25 minutes per disc is really too much of a burden.

Call me old fashioned, I even include a blank AUDIO_TS folder, but my success rate is too high to induce any adventure...

Zep

Agree totally Zep. If I'm burning a disc for myself for my use on my equip then I ramp it up as high as it will go.

But if I am doing a burn for my Dad or my brother (who live on the other side of the country) or anyone else who is.... not me, then I go for the safety of 1x.
In the early days I used to burn at max speed for everythnig and got sick of the phone calls "This DVD you sent me doesn't play" or "I was watching the movie you sent me and it just froze and now my DVD player is locked".

Since burning all that stuff at 1x I rarely get bothered.

There are just too many variables involved. I keep a record of what el-cheapo-blanks work on my family's various machines, but if I'm doing a burn for someone with unknown equipment then I will also use a $4-5 disc rather than the $1.20 ones I use for myself. All about giving yourself the maximum chance of success.

Cheers...

[OvERaCiD23]

Originally posted by Grover
...but if I'm doing a burn for someone with unknown equipment then I will also use a $4-5 disc rather than the $1.20 ones I use for myself. All about giving yourself the maximum chance of success.

Cheers...

Why in the world would you pay $5 for a blank DVD? Ritek -Rs only cost $1/disc, Ritek -RWs only $1.50 (hell, probably cheaper than that in some places as well). Screw buying cheap media that's overpriced; just buy same Riteks, save money, and call it a day.

[Grover]

Originally posted by OvERaCiD23
Why in the world would you pay $5 for a blank DVD? Ritek -Rs only cost $1/disc, Ritek -RWs only $1.50 (hell, probably cheaper than that in some places as well). Screw buying cheap media that's overpriced; just buy same Riteks, save money, and call it a day.

Not everyone in the world lives in America with such a huge market, massive competition and a large range of products to chose from. (should have mentioned my prices were in $AUD (that's Australian - not Austrian ;) )

We are only 20 million people here (we like it that way...) and don't have a such huge selection to choose from. If you want to buy a "brand name" DVD blank (TDK, Verbatim, Sony, Imation, etc...) in a retail shop (sorry - "store") in Oz then it will cost around $5 per disc. If you buy bulk spindles you can maybe get them for around $3.50 each.

I buy my el-cheapos from weekend computer markets held in Melbourne / Sydney and get Princo and "green ones - can't remember the name.. Data something" for $60 /50 discs becuase I know these ones work with my equipment.

I'm not complaining about the price differences, those are just facts of life and location. But be mindful that not everyone has access to the super-duper pricing in America.

(although if the $USD keeps going down against our little-aussie-battler then soon we will be about even. (in last 18 months AUD has gone from $0.51 against $USD to being $0.78 this morning which eases my tech-buying-pain :D )

Cheers...

[djan]

Never had problem burning at 4x with Philips media but had problems with Bulkpaq media.

[DSP8000]

@Grover,
Try Shintaro's 4x's(Princo Media Original) from JB Hi-Fi,that is what I use for my backups, burn @4x.I've heard that the spindle Shintaro's(50 or 100) it's not very good(35 out of 50 work).For my clients I use just Verbatim 4x,so far not even one single phone call.Also I use Pioneer DVR-106D(not flashed).Before I used to have some problems with Imation blanks so I switched,oh if you want el-cheapo(good) blanks try Max-Max(some Jap or Chinese brand).I have about 25 DVD backups done with them(they still play).Now I'm all exited about dual layer Pioneer firmware(if it happens???)
DSP8000

[Grover]

Originally posted by DSP8000
@Grover,
Try Shintaro's 4x's(Princo Media Original) from JB Hi-Fi,that is what I use for my backups, burn @4x.For my clients I use just Verbatim 4x,so far not even one single phone call.Also I use Pioneer DVR-106D(not flashed).Before I used to have some problems with Imation blanks so I switched,oh if you want el-cheapo(good) blanks try Max-Max(some Jap or Chinese brand).I have about 25 DVD backups done with them(they still play).Now I'm all exited about dual layer Pioneer firmware(if it happens???)
DSP8000

Thanks for the info DSP8000. Might be time to revisit Shintaro. I had some bad experiences with them but that was long time ago in the days of 1x and 2x. I see them around the place and pricing is mid-range.

Always willing to try new things. I haven't been to the Melb Sunday Computer market for a few weeks. Is this where have you seen the Max-Max ones ?

Dual layer support for Pioneer burner is certainly a bonus if it holds to be true...

Cheers...

[Beastie Boy]

I burn all my Video DVDs at 2.4x (the slowest my burner allows). I always favor quality over speed, both for encoding and burning. If I spend 6-10 hours re-encoding a movie, what does another 15 mins matter.

I'm currently using Ritek DVD+Rs which give excellent results on my LiteOn 411S. Using a programme called KProbe, it is possible to scan the disc for errors, and the error rate on my burned copy is generally no higher than the original disc.

Cheers, Beastie.

[DSP8000]

@Grover,
At the computer markets but in ACT (Canberra).
Hey,what a week @ the summernats,I filmed it for 3 days
best thing new record 1359.7 hp V8 small block VK!!!

[Kedirekin]

I don't know what that was about, but it brings up a good point.

I burn at about 70,000 mph - a little faster or slower depending on the time of the day and what season it is.

[darkangle73]

I use memorex media 4x on a nec 1300a and when I burn from the hdd I can burn at 4x no problems yet or any noticable difrences, but when I burn a backup of a backup ( on the fly ) I do it at 2.4x i've had some problems at 4x evean tho my dvd rom is a 16x

[s41]

It depends most on the used media. I've tried Sentinel at 4x and the last few chapters were completely unplayable. Now I use Traxdata and no problems(about 20 DVDs made)

[JF Sebastian]

RE: what speed do you burn?

FLAT OUT M8!! :D

So far I've burned everything at 4X on my home PC and now 8X on a Plextor 708A I installed (quite unneccesarily I might add :p ) on my office rig - it smokes!

Tested on Pioneer 350S, Toshiba 220E, Sony DVP705 and even a £20 Proline 1050 - all play perfectly, with no fast forward glitches or chapters erroring out.

Media used ranges from unbranded Princo clones to big brand overpriced stuff. I've settled on Traxdata X4 -R and Ricoh X4 +R as my two most reliable brands.

Thinking that I'll add a Pioneer 107 or a Sony 530 as soon as no-one notices at the office so that I can burn -R at 8X as well - cool! :)

JF

[DSP8000]

@ Kedirekin,
man,I'm still laughing @ your reply....
It's a Car Festival(High-Performance Cars) here in Australia.
I know it's OT but i could not resist.That was one hell of a record.
DSP8000

[Alurker]

I've been using Compusa brand(made by FMI)1x DVD-R which burns at 2x's in my Pioneer DVD-105 and I've never had a coaster and there on sale even few weeks for $19 for 25-pack which comes to about 80 cents a disc.

With the success I've had with them I won't be changing anytime soon and its a simple stop to the local store to pick up some anytime I need them and they never seem to sale-out :)