need help with dvd shrink and TMPGEnc DVD Author

[xboot]

hi all.

ok here's the deal,

i used dvd shrink to copy my dvd moive to a folder on my harddrive using level 9 compresion, it went from (7.98 gb) to (4.12) gb.thats good.Then i used TMPGEnc DVD Author to try and burn to dvd-r and it says when i goto the dvd folder that theres no VIDEO_TS FOUND???? but i see it in the dvd folder were i have the vobs in??

SO I leave it up to u guyz to help me out

is there something i am forgeting to do?

or can i just use a different bruning s/w?

plz advise

thanks to all

XBooT :)

[MackemX]

I'm not so wised up with TMPGEnc :(. Does it require you have an VIDEO_TS folder with the files in and you point to the folder that contains it?

you try a demo of RecordNowMax or the latest version of Nero. You could also use ImgTools but again I've never used it, just heard of it

just make sure you have a VIDEO_TS folder and an AUDIO_TS folder in the folder you burn

[Arianos]

TMPGenc DVD Author's burning engine is (supposed to be) one of the most "tabletop" compatible. But again, so are RecordNowMax, Record NowDX, Prassi Primo DVD etc etc. All of them require a VIDEO_TS folder in order to create a playable DVD.
DVDShrink DOES NOT make one, so you have to make one yourself, and put inside the ifos, bups and vobs that DVD Shrink made and THEN burn it (the VIDEO_TS folder)
UNLESS
you use Nero, which under the DVDMovie option has a ready made template , where you drag the DShrink stuff into a VIDEO_TS folder and then hit burn

[xboot]

ok i see know,

thanks Arianos,

O ONE MORE QUESTION, with dvd shrink compression level 9 how is that going to reflect the pitcure quality??? when i am shrinking what level is the best to try and set it to?


thanks again all

XBooT;)

[MackemX]

what version of DVDShrink are you using xboot?

I'm sure version 3.0 Beta 5 doesn't have levels but ratio settings

whichever level (ratio) you choose, it's better you decide for yourself with a few tests as everyone will have their own levels (ratios). I could offer a suggestion but choose not to as even the highest level 1 (90%+) will not be good enough for some as people have different perceptions and playback equipment that affects opinions greatly ;)

[Arianos]

Not so good. But then again, everything depends "on the eye of the beholder"
I use DVDShrink 3.05b (or Nero Recode) for "light" compressions (down to 80-85%), IC8 for down to about 55-60% and DVD2DVDR (and a LOT of time...) for heavy stuff.
But that's me. Searching around the forum you will see many opinions and options.
Have fun as we all do.

[xboot]

i belive its 3.0

not sure, i just downloaded it 2 nights ago.
yes i know that level 1 is best but most dvd's i have are over 8 gigs
so to fit them onto a 4.7 dvd-r its going to have to be level 8 or 9 i asume.

and my playback equ. is a 1 year old phips i think i can't rember the name,lol
but any way all cdr and dvd-r playback works perfectly

xboot

[MackemX]

lol :D, don't mention Philips to Arianos :D, he had a right old fussy one ;)

try downloading the latest version which is Version 3.0 Beta 5

http://www.dvdshrink.info/downloads.php or http://www.dvdshrink.org

[xboot]

thanks again guyz, i will see what version of dvd shrink i have tonight.

hey that dvd2dvdr .... how is that program?

is it easy and how long to back up a dvd to dvdr?

XBooT

[MackemX]

it's easy for some :). I'm not sure about 1:1 backups but movie only is easy once you get over the small but steep learning curve

I think it now has it's own engine, wheresas before it used CCE which results in better quality according to most who use it

one downside is that it takes longer to process, a couple of hours for example on an average PC :(

[Arianos]

one downside is that it takes longer to process, a couple of hours for example on an average PC

Plus xboot, i just saw that you are in NTSC land, and DVD2DVDR is Pal oriented, meaning it has some problems with NTSC stuff, mainly because of Ifoedit. I haven't tested whether they were totally eliminated in the latest (1.7.2) version.

I would stick with the easy stuff for starters.
Plus, If I had to backup huge DVDs like you do, I would search for solutions to either trim the contents or split the DVDs.
Splitting can be done by DVDFab, DVDShrink, DVDStripper, DVDXCopy etc.
Trimming can be done by Menuedit, DVDStripper, or, heaven forbid, totally manually using either 2COOL's or MackemX's guides. These 2 last ones are no-no for beginners BUT are guaranteed to work 100% with fussy players, e.g. (ahehm...) Philips :)
Sorry if I gave you a lot of homework :)
Once again, welcome to the wonderful and simple world of "one clickers" :)

[2COOL]

@Arianos

Originally posted by Arianos
or, heaven forbid, totally manually using either 2COOL's or MackemX's guides. These 2 last ones are no-no for beginners BUT are guaranteed to work 100% with fussy players, e.g. (ahehm...) Philips :) I don't want to come off as a bad guy but the way you posted, you make the title stripping guides look sooo bad. :( They were done waaaay before DVD Stripper came along. The only difference between the guides and the programs is that they're still free. Besides, it gives people some knowledge about the DVD Structure and what's in the IFOs. I've even read recent threads with MackemX pointing to my guides to help others even though he has DVD Stripper. I guess it's alot about mutual respect. ;)

[MackemX]

@xboot, that will keep you busy till the New Year :). You could always try rejig as I have heard that most agree it gives satisfactory quality

@Arianos, give the guy a break, it's Christams and you give hima homework list like that? :D

@2COOL, I don't think Arianos mean't it that way as to use IFOEdit guru's the guides are as easy as A,B,C

does it really depend when the guides were done? I had my VOB stripping guides waaaay back in March IIRC before I even thought about automating it in April. A few people had offered suggestions for new methods but I just didn't update. I don't refer people to mine as much now, as yours are basically more uptodate refined versions and will work perfectly if followed correctly :D. Mine have longer, slower unecessary methods along with a few errors, apart from the odd few that I have actually updated

I recall a few discussions where some of my guides were discussed and refined but I never updated them at all as you just created your own from them in September and basically again I couldn't bothered. It's funny reading the old threads from back then though. I just can't afford to put hours of effort into something like that anymore, so I just point users to yours as they are the best I know of. I notice that a few 'commercial' programs also seem to use the blanking methods from our guides as the outputs are very similar if you compare them afterwards ;)

Although the manual methods are indeed 'free' I think there is more than just the fact the programs cost a few £'s. Manual methods do have limitations for most in one way or another and even though I'm a whizz at manually striping a DVD, I just wish I'd listened to people telling me to get MenuEdit earlier this year to save the time and effort (which in my eyes isn't 'free' :() that's involved in the whole stripping process

the majority will not accomplish what ME & DS or any other program that strips content can offer with more complicated DVD's or extreme stripping requirements without running into some difficulty. Even with guides, time and knowledge limitations are 2 big factors for some. Some will overcome the steep but short learning curve with the guides of course but most want it easy and fast these days :). I laugh at the people who want direct DVD copies in less than 30 minutes when only so long ago it took hours :D

that's why I created DS for these people who can't use the manual methods for one reason or another as it basically eliminates quite a lot of the crap involved in stripping a DVD

I just know if I'd released DS for free (which some people thought I was for some resaon :confused:.) and asked for donations I'd be a 'hero' (lol :)). I often feel I have commited murder in this forum by creating a tool that takes the sometimes laborious task out of stripping a DVD for a newbie but having the balls to charge for it. I often wonder why DVDStripper is still the only so called 'commercial' program that is still listed at the top of this forum :D

Paying £10 for Menuedit or £5 now for DS is nothing compared to the 'free' time I and others now enjoy to do other things than strip DVD's manually for a living :D but some still enjoy it doing it manually and I did at one time. 'To each his own' :)

too much respect 2COOL :D as I fully appreciate your efforts as I know the lengths you go to help people :), but I guess I've now partially sold out as I'm now labelled as 'commercialised' so I'm actually the one who;s the bad guy around here :(. Don't think this is in anyway a flame towards you, :D, far from it, it's probably nearer a kissing ass post as without you where would everyone be now as all your guides will have helped 1000's. I just wish I had the webspace to put them up for you as I think you should be known in every DVD backup forum

one last note, how many 'free' software developers now or have worked or contributed for software companies because of their 'free' products? ;)

p.s. this has probably been on and off my mind because I'm still pissed at the way I got flamed here a while back for a stupid little program. Even now certain people still not dare utter the word DVDStripper and this is me just getting the last out for the New Year as I still think of it all as a joke :p

Some may say I should be more responsible and keep my mouth shut as I now have interests in DVDStripper but that's absolute crap. I'm still the normal down to earth, help as much as I can, have a laugh, likes the odd heated debate MackemX I was before I was labelled by some here just recently. Now I have that simple little program that has helped people enjoy the stuff they coudln't have managed before even using guides. I'm proud that although I'm not a programmer (which doesn't mean you are better than anyone else in my eyes), I had the methods and ideas to create something that kicked some of the bigger wiser software companies a$$es when it comes to stripping a DVD. Hopefully I've more programs are to come in the New Year to kick even mnore a$$ making life simple for people so flamers be prepared :D

p.p.s. Merry Christmas to all and Best Wishes for the New Year ;)

[Arianos]

I apologize if I offended in any way. I only wanted to add a touch of humour in helping xboot and showing him some leads.
Your (2COOL's and MackemX's) guides are indeed free and can do the job 100%, as I have more than often pointed out in various threads. Bad? No way :) Good all the way, but certainly requiring a steep learning curve from a beginner in order to use them. Once one is a little comfortable with PGCs, titlesets, first play items, etc, they are simple to follow AND are guaranteed to work 100% with fussy players, e.g. (ahehm...) Philips .
(Both me and Xboot have Philips players, and believe you me, they ARE fussy!)
In fact I still use them for jobs that no 'automated' program can do (yet?), e.g. eliminate 'phantom' streams in Shrink, jumb directly to main menu, etc. but in the same time, I betcha xboot has no idea (yet) of what I'm talking about, and that was my point, although not well stated.
Anyway, I apologize again, and wish all a very merry Christmas :)

[xboot]

ok guyz, were all here to helping one anthor out...........

ok, know, listen thanks to you guyz help reguarding dvd shrink
i successfully backed up indepences day using dvd shirnk 3.0 beta 5 with nero 6. and to be honest with you all,i can't even tell the difference from the orignal....lol


but thanks again to all of you guyz

MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR !@!@!@!



XBooT

:) :D

[2COOL]

To all,

No harm done.:D I'm still too C:cool::cool:L!, even though it's not snowing where I'm at. A Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you also! :D;)

@MackemX

:goodpost: :thanks: