Another failing layout in Scenarist

[Moondust]

Hi all!

I read several posts about the Layout Failure message in Scenarist when using DVD2SVCD in DVD2DVD mode. However, no one seems to have come across my error. It must have to do something with the subtitles overlapping each other, but I don't know how to fix this.

I am using Scenarist 2.7, DVD2SVCD 1.2.1 build 3 (latest), CCE 2.67 SP trial and D2SRoBa 3.0.8. And ow yes, I am using AutoFitCD 1.5 as well (Lanczos manually set). In CCE 2.67 SP trial I set the template to RB/DDogg's settings. I noticed that the framerate was set to 30 (frames per second). My source is 25 frames per second (PAL). Could that be it?

I tried the ac3fix, but no errors came to the surface. Same problem.

Below is the DVD2SVCD log and the Scenarist message window log.

I hope anyone can reveal to me what went wrong here.

DVD2SVCD log

WNASPI32.DLL 4.6.0.1021
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- 14-12-2003 8:21:23
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2DVD ver. 1.2.1 build 3
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Initializing
- C:\Downloads\DVDrips\Minority Report\VTS_01_0.IFO
- C:\Downloads\DVDrips\Minority Report\VTS_01_1.vob
- C:\Downloads\DVDrips\Minority Report\VTS_01_2.vob
- C:\Downloads\DVDrips\Minority Report\VTS_01_3.vob
- C:\Downloads\DVDrips\Minority Report\VTS_01_4.vob
- C:\Downloads\DVDrips\Minority Report\VTS_01_5.vob
- C:\Downloads\DVDrips\Minority Report\VTS_01_6.vob
- C:\Downloads\DVDrips\Minority Report\VTS_01_7.vob
- C:\Downloads\DVDrips\Minority Report\VTS_01_8.vob
Initializing finished.

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- 14-12-2003 8:21:25
- Analyzing subtitles
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Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x21 Language: Français
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x20 Language: English
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x22 Language: Nederlands
Subtitle found: StreamID: 0x23 Language: Français

Executing subtitle selection/verification.
Subtitle selection/verification accepted.
2 subtitle streams selected.
Saving Subtitles ini file
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- 14-12-2003 8:22:43
- DVD2AVI
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Creating DVD2AVI INI file:
- C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.INI

Variable settings:
iDCT_Algorithm: 32-bit SSE MMX

Executing DVD2AVI.
Executing DVD2AVI. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.exe" -CS=2 -YR=1 -EXIT -OF=[E:\DVDProject\DVD2AVI_Project_file] -IF=[C:\Downloads\DVDrips\Minority Report\VTS_01_1.vob,C:\Downloads\DVDrips\Minority Report\VTS_01_2.vob,C:\Downloads\DVDrips\Minority Report\VTS_01_3.vob,C:\Downloads\DVDrips\Minority Report\VTS_01_4.vob,C:\Downloads\DVDrips\Minority Report\VTS_01_5.vob,C:\Downloads\DVDrips\Minority Report\VTS_01_6.vob,C:\Downloads\DVDrips\Minority Report\VTS_01_7.vob,C:\Downloads\DVDrips\Minority Report\VTS_01_8.vob]
Framerate: 25000
DVD2AVI processing done.

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- 14-12-2003 8:26:09
- Free on drive C: 44788.67 mb
- Free on drive E: 49385.13 mb
- Extracting the subtitles.
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Subtitle extraction finished. Extracted these subtitles:
SVCD Stream no: 2 Language: Nederlands Num. of subs: 1406
SVCD Stream no: 1 Language: English Num. of subs: 1390

Saving Subtitles ini file
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- 14-12-2003 8:30:23
- Free on drive C: 44788.67 mb
- Free on drive E: 49350.32 mb
- AUDIO Extraction
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Found AC3 stream id: 0x80
Filename: E:\DVDProject\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Audio1 delay: 0 ms
Framerate: 25000
Audio extraction finished.

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- 14-12-2003 8:34:37
- Free on drive C: 44788.67 mb
- Free on drive E: 48903.38 mb
- Video Encoding using Cinema Craft
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Executing Cinema Craft Encoder.
StreamSectors: 4546875788
AudioSectors: 548110752
VideoPAPO: 61943004
ScanOffsetBytes: 361880
SeqAligningBytes: 22999453
DVDBytes: 0
VideoEndHeader: 4
SubtitleSectors: 14580776
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 0.00
PureMPEGStream: 3898879919.83
Seconds: 9657.12
CalcMPEGStream: 3898879919.83
Frames: 241253
CDSize: 4350.00
Number of CDs: 1
Cut point 4331.00
Variable Settings:
Frames: 241253
Anti Noise Filter: Off
Passes: 3
Image Quality: 17
VAF file creation: On
Video Encoding Mode: One Pass VBR
Q. Factor: 5
Min. bitrate: 2000
Max. bitrate: 3229
Aspect Ratio: Anamorphic (no borders, encoded as 16:9)

---AVS Begin---
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\AVISYN~1.5PL\Mpeg2dec\MPEG2D~1.DLL")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\AVISYN~1.5PL\INVERS~1\decomb.dll")
mpeg2source("E:\DVDPRO~1\DVD2AV~1.D2V")
Telecide()
# -= AviSynth script by FitCD v1.1.2 =-
LanczosResize(688,416,12,77,698,422)
AddBorders(16,80,16,80)
ConvertToYUY2()
----AVS End----

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- 14-12-2003 16:55:00
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2DVD ver. 1.2.1 build 3
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Initializing
-
Initializing finished.

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- 14-12-2003 16:55:01
- Free on drive C: 44787.42 mb
- Free on drive E: 44860.67 mb
- Restarting from: Muxing and Cutting
Saving Subtitle Timecodes.
SVCD subtitles.
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- 14-12-2003 16:55:05
- Free on drive C: 44787.42 mb
- Free on drive E: 44858.55 mb
- Creating DVD-Image using Sonic Scenarist
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Creating Sonic Scenarist Script file
Executing Sonic Scenarist
Scenarist Failed!
Layout Failed (See Message Window)

Message Window Scenarist 2.7

Info Multiplexing
Info Multiplexing VOB Main Stream
Error Subpicture[1] (236:en100236.bmp.sp) and (237:en100237.bmp.sp) offset are overlapped (00:23:12;19-00:23:15;11) and (00:23:15;11-00:23:19;21)
Error dvd_mux : Open Mux_list File Error
Error Terminated Multiplexing (movie0.scn-Encoded_Video_CCE_PAL-t_t.vob).
Error Wrong mux_list. Mux_list format or stream ID may be wrong.
Error Multiplex is failed.
Info Multiplexing failed, Track<Encoded_Video_CCE_PAL-t>

Error MuxFromDB:MuxVTS failed
Error Multiplex failed
Error DVD files could not be created

Somewhere in the Message Window of Scenarist I found this:

Info Creating DVD Files
Warning Sub-Picture (stream 1 in Track "Encoded_Video_CCE_PAL-t") is across scene boundary at 01:49:18;23
Warning Sub-Picture (stream 2 in Track "Encoded_Video_CCE_PAL-t") is across scene boundary at 00:28:29;21
Warning Sub-Picture (stream 2 in Track "Encoded_Video_CCE_PAL-t") is across scene boundary at 01:49:18;23

Maybe that has something to do with it, I don't know.

Can anyone help me out here?

Thnx for the great job on DVD2SVCD, AutoFitCD en D2SRoBa !!! Excellent software!

[Moondust]

I started doing some research by analysing the originally ripped DVD files. Appears that VTS_01_1.VOB, the first file of the main movie, is soundless and starts somewhere in the middle of the movie. At the end of that file I see the 20th Century Fox intro which a movie of that company usually starts with. It seems like the mixed up the video in a way. When playing the original DVD, all seems to be fine.

Can this DVD file structure be the cause of the failure I experience? The extracted ac3 sound starts with the drums accompanying the 20th Century Fox intro.

Anyone somewhat clarifying thoughts about all this?

[windtrader]

It must be DVD2DVD flu season. I just got the exact same error for the first time.

Same setup as you. I'll do a few experiments and see if I can root out the problem. I am using the latest D2SRoBa 3.10 and was using 3.0.8. I am going to try a quick run without D2SRoBa.

[Moondust]

I was trying to backup Minority Report and ripped the movie in file mode before running D2SRoBa and DVD2SVCD. When running the first VOB file (1 GB) of the movie in PowerDVD I get no sound and the movie starts somewhere in the middle of the movie. The extracted ac3 sound however starts with the normal sound we are used to when the 20th century fox entertainment intro plays. Near the end of the 1 GB file of the first VOB the intro starts.

I don't think the movie was extracted wrongfully. I believe the DVD structure somehow plays the scattered movie parts in a particular order or something. Is this a common thing? Is there anything I can do about this? Ripping the DVD in IFO mode?

[windtrader]

When running the first VOB file (1 GB) of the movie in PowerDVD I get no sound and the movie starts somewhere in the middle of the movie. The extracted ac3 sound however starts with the normal sound we are used to when the 20th century fox entertainment intro plays. Near the end of the 1 GB file of the first VOB the intro starts.

Not sure if you tried to play the actual VOB file, but this causes the kinds of problems you describe. You need to play a VIDEO_TS.IFO file created for that movie. Otherwise, the player is not properly initialized and the results are unpredictable.

As to the Scenarist problem, I could not recreate it using a clip of the movie. I ran two tests. The first was to rip chapter x from the movie and run it through the process. The result played fine with the subtitle. The next was to take the first three chapters and do the same. The results worked. So, I am not sure what more testing to do without ripping the whole thing and trying various tests. Very time consuming with a 3hour + movie.

[Moondust]

Well....the story continues....

I tried another movie which has the video and audio in chronological order. When letting DVD2SVCD build it all in Scenarist I get the Layout Failure Message again.

Error Subpicture[1] (7:en100008.bmp.sp) and (8:en100007.bmp.sp) offset are overlapped (00:00:39;03-00:00:41;00) and (00:00:39;11-00:00:41;00)
Error dvd_mux : Open Mux_list File Error
Error Terminated Multiplexing (movie0.scn-Encoded_Video_CCE_PAL-t_t.vob).
Error Wrong mux_list. Mux_list format or stream ID may be wrong.
Error Multiplex is failed.
Info Multiplexing failed, Track<Encoded_Video_CCE_PAL-t>

Error MuxFromDB:MuxVTS failed
Error Multiplex failed
Error DVD files could not be created

No clue what it could be. Something wrong with overlapping subtitles. Seems like 2 different subtitles want the same place at a certain moment in the movie.

???