IQ Test Part 2

[MLS]

The test Yuri did intrigued me enough to do a test of my own. I want to make it as comprehensive as possible. I will be testing the following encoders:

CCE 2.50.01.00
CCE 2.66.01.07
CCE 2.67.00.11
TMPGEnc Plus 2.521.58.169
Canopus Procoder 1.5
MC Encoder 1.4.1

I will use the exact same avs script to frameserve to each.

What I need:

Public domain clip or clips (so there are no copyright issues) that will test various aspects of the encoding process. Must be longer than 2 minutes, have some good action sequences, already be in mpeg2 DVD standard format, and be reasonably high bitrate (5000+ VBR).

I will post all the ecls and setting profiles for each to make it as reproducable as possible. I will use the highest settings for each encoder. 9 pass CCE, Highest motion search in TMPG, etc.. and will test at various average bitrates. (4000, 3000, 2000).

The last two encoders I am unfamiliar with and need some recommended settings for getting the most out of them. No I'm not an encoding expert but I'm willing to put the time in to do the testing.

If you have any suggestions, etc. Feel free.

/MLS

[jarvis1781]

I only have one suggestion...
make sure you don't walk the path that Yuri did.
Before you begin this test please ensure that each encoder has been obtained legally. (that means no cracks to make them work in a way they weren't intended)

[MLS]

Unless you know someone who has a copy of 2.50.01.00 to sell me, you can't buy that old of a version from CinemaCraft, so what you say is pretty much impossible. I can stop now, or test.. I guess its up to the mods.

/MLS

[Yuri]

MLS, you're most welcome to visit my page, maybe I've done some of the job you had in mind to do?

http://sch-yuri.narod.ru/DVD/DVD.htm

The pages are in my language - Russian - but the technical data is quite understandable.
Please, don't discuss anything HERE, just look at the results of my test, and make your choice.

To the respected mods, the pieces of software I used for the test (except CCE 2.67) are all legally obtained by myself or my best friends who conducted the necessary testing for me.

jarvis1781, you did brilliant work, thank you, but your resulting screenshot of the notorious Tarzan frame is somewhat blurred and resized. Unfortunately and sadly, I, personally, can't rely on it one hundred per cent. I am VERY sorry for that, please, be tolerant and cross-culturally understanding, thank you.

[Boulder]

Yuri,

if the software used for the comparison is legally obtained, maybe you should contact Cinema Craft and ask if they have any explanations for that odd image destruction?

[kazam]

My suggestion would be to use 4 or maybe 5 passes maximum.

This is for three reasons:
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Most people use at most 4 passes.
It will save you some time.
Cinemacraft explicitly states that more than 4 passes is unnecessary.
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CCE Manual
Image quality slightly improves each time encoding is repeated, but quality improvement reaches its limit at 3 ˜ 4 times of encoding.

/kazam

[Yuri]

Respected Boulder,
above I wrote ... the pieces of software I used for the test (except CCE 2.67) are all legally obtained ... . so I can't possible follow your precious piece of advice, thank you, anyway.

kazam, that's true, but item 2 It will save you some time. :confused: - one pass mode is somewhat faster. Many good encoders do not have multipass modes at all for some reason.

[RB]

Originally posted by Yuri
To the respected mods, the pieces of software I used for the test (except CCE 2.67) are all legally obtained
Yuri, why can't you just learn to respect forum rule 6?