Menu for turning closed captions on/off in scenarist?

[djm]

I've looked everywhere but cannot find any documentation on how to do this. It probably is something obvious but I haven't stumbled across it yet? It would be much appreciated if someone here knows how. Thanks.

[djm]

no one knows who to go about doing this? I apologize if this is the wrong forum or something.

[dvd_master]

Closed Captions are set by the TV, not a DVD/VHS.

If you mean subtitles (subpictures) that are on the DVD, have a menu made (can be simple, like 'Subs on' and 'Subs off') and have the buttons set up and everything.

Then double click on the little "BTNS" when it's in the Scenario Editor, and you get button commands.

Say button number 1 (you should have already created the buttons) is the subs on button, and button 2 is the subs off button. Click on the button one in the Command List and change the Command (the drop down list) to Set Angle/Audio/Subpicture.

To turn them on, uncheck everything but 'Display Subpicture' and 'Set Subpicture Stream ID to __ '

Then click on button 2 in the Command List, choose the same thing, but uncheck the 'Display Subpicture' box (only, leave the other checked).

[djm]

seriously, I appreciate it. I understand that theTV controls the CC. I happened to have a copy of "Gangs of NY" which I'm backing up via scenarist. It indeed says it has a menu for turning captions on/off. I thought it would be great to learn how to replicate this. I guess you're telling me that these are actually subtitles and not captions? Thanks again for your time.

[dvd_master]

Hmm, I never heard of that happening. See if it actually has a subtitle stream, more then once they refer to it as closed captions.

Play the DVD and see if you can turn on subtitles. Or see what the subs look like. If it's plain white text with black square background (a big black bar with the words typed over it), then they are CC.

[mpucoder]

Or it could be that subtle difference between captions and closed captions. Subpicture language extensions 5, 6, and 7 are called "captions", they differ from normal subtitles in that they are more descriptive (like closed captions), describing sounds for hearing impaired people, and not just translated dialog.

[djm]

I have some subtitles that seem to match what is being called "captions". However, there are 2 odd things:
1. I have a file[s] for both CC and subtitles [provided by Doitfast4U].
2. My main .m2v file already has CC embedded. How do I know? When imported, by the Line21 input area it jsut says "Yes". [Never saw that before] So I [seemingly wrongly] figured I could make a menu to turn these CC's on and off. Thus, not have to deal with subtitles or stripping that CC material out of the .m2v.

I must apologize for not being as familar as I should with the Line21 stuff. All of these replies are really helping me understand. Thanks.

[Sherlock_2]

sorry guys
you mean closed captions and subtitles are same ?
Ifthey are , so why closed captions calls "close caption" ?
:confused:

[dvd_master]

They're not the same, but they perform the exact same function. Closed Captions are ugly black and white things that are included on lots of TV programs. Subtitles means that either they are hard pressed on the video, or you're watchin a DVD/SVCD with removable subtitles. Subtitles can be many many colors (if hard pressed) or 4 different colors per subtitle line if removable. They can also be a wide variety of fonts, sizes, pictures, etc. CC are always a big black bar with plain type-writer font (white) over the bar. Hideous, they are.

I don't know how to set the CC, but if there is a subtitle stream why don't you just not bother with the CC and use the subtitles?

[mpucoder]

Originally posted by dvd_master
Closed Captions are ugly black and white things
Closed Captions have the ability to use colors, but that ability is rarely used.

[djm]

thanks for the info. I'll just do subtitles. I still want to get rid of the CC info in the m2v file-just so I know how. No sense in keeping it in there. Ever seen that "yes" in the line21 area before, anyone?

[dvd_master]

It would be a lot of useless work to get rid of the CC on the m2v file. 99% of people who would need them will just use the subtitles, since usually something doesn't have both. Unless someone happens to try turning it on, they'll never see it.

[Eyes`Only]

closed captions are actually inside the headers of m2v files. It's useless to remove them because the space is there anyway, and it'll take up the same amount of room either way. I believe that Scenarist ignores this particular bit of the header though, which is why you need the .scc file i generate for you in order to have the CC in your final product.