button over video, 2nd button command not linking

[jel]

okay here's the spiel.
i have been trying to backup my copy of the hulk, r4, disc 1, main movie for the last few days and i am having issues with the button commands :rolleyes:
from analysing the ifos i have worked out that the button commands need to be :
example used will be the first button (links to title 03)
command 1: Set to GPRM, Immediate, Assign GPRM8, Set Val 1
command 2: Jump to PGC in System Space, PGC in Video Manager (PGC_10), Cell for Resume, 9.
okay seems simple enough, except to get to the second command, i need to use a link to a second button which is assigned that command.
the problem i am having is in getting that link to the second button to work.
what i have done is created button 1 over the selectable sub-pic (in substream 7) and assigned it a command of:
{mov GPRM8,1;LinkNoLink, button=2}
and then i created a second button above button 1, which i set to 'auto action' with the command:
Call SS RSM=9, pgc_10.

(.....man this is turning into one long essay :o )

anyway, so i compile the layout, run ifo update and open the folder from WinDVD, select the bonus play, and skip to the first button, press it, and nothing happens! however if i then press the second button, it makes the correct jump! :devil: .
so i can assume i have the button commands at least somewhat correct, its something in the linking of the two, where i get it wrong.....
so, any thoughts?
j
note: for the record i tried using menuedit to check the commands (which requires you to rip a copy of the movie in file mode because it doesnt like the 'read only' vobs from the virtual drive disk) but every time i try it, it complains that it has to shut down in a 'very unexpected way'.......

[Dimad]

I'm not sure what does "LinkNoLink" mean.

Using LinkTopCell (in mpucoder's site terminology) does "jump" to another button quite well.

[jel]

hi dimad,
thanks for the reply.
i will try using LinkTopCell tonight.....i have lost track of the different options i have tried to get this to work :confused: .
from memory, i think 'LinkNoLink' is used when you dont want to jump to another cell/program/etc but simply want to link to another button...well at least thats what i understood from the scenarist manual :rolleyes:
anyway, thanks again for your time
j

[Dimad]

Don't have manuals :(, so I have to find what works hard way :). MPUCoder's knowledge makes it somewhat easier.

[influenza]

You don't have to rip in file mode. Just rip in iso mode as usual. Then copy the file you need from this virtual device to your HD.

Open the file in menuedit and spy on your command. Easy as that ;)

[Eyes`Only]

Yep, even the free cripple-ware version lets you do this.

[jel]

thanks for the replys, i will give it a go tonight and see if it works. the problem i was having with menuedit was that when i tried opening one of the movie vobs which contains the 'button over video' it kept complaining that there was a runtime error and it had to shutdown...i read in the menuedit FAQ that it may be something to do with memory and/or the version i was using.

@dimad
thanks for the suggestion of trying LinkTopCell. i think it would work really well on a static menu but with 'button over video' commnands when it jumps to button 2 it jumps back to the beginning of the cell causing a stuttering effect in the video.

[Dimad]

Originally posted by jel
the problem i was having with menuedit was that when i tried opening one of the movie vobs which contains the 'button over video' it kept complaining that there was a runtime error and it had to shutdown...

What was that disk? I would like to look into this.

@dimad
thanks for the suggestion of trying LinkTopCell. i think it would work really well on a static menu but with 'button over video' commnands when it jumps to button 2 it jumps back to the beginning of the cell causing a stuttering effect in the video.
Good point. I was thinking only about menu where buttons start from the beginning of the cell. Could you please let me know what command will work for buttons over video when you find it out. Thanks in advance.

[jel]

@ Dimad
hmmmm....i downloaded the 2.3.0 Free Version again and this time it worked, so somehow i must have had an old version of MenuEdit floating around and used that by mistake:confused: not really sure.
anyway i think i have the commands figured out now (and verified with vobedit).
it seems that a second button was NOT required and that a simple LinkTailPGC action would suffice.
i will post a 'cheatsheet' of how i went about backing up 'the hulk' sometime in the next week, when i get some breathing room (absolutely chaotic at work right now :( )
as a side note, i did get the commands to work with 2 buttons (with a LinkNoLink to button 2, with no stuttering) but it wouldnt work on the standalone......:mad: ...and it would only work 'automatically' (ie without pressing both buttons) on WinDVD if i set the 2nd button to 'force activated' but unfortunately this resulted in a weird looping back to the root menu if button 1 was not selected?