SceneAid -- RC2

[D3s7]

SceneAid RC2 is now available

What's SceneAid?
* Complete Track creation for VOBID Demux
* Automatically adds chapter/scene information
* Automatically creates assigns audio to tracks
* Automatically imports existing sub file to tracks

How do you use it?
1) Rip your Movie with DoItFast4u
2) Encode all assets as normal
5) Run SceneAid - select your Doitfast4u demux directory and click "Generate Script"
6) Import script into scenarist
7) Verify Layout
8) Mux and enjoy


If you would like to test SceneAid please feel free but make sure to report any problems back to me via email at sceneaid@sceneaid.com

Available at: http://www.sceneaid.com

[jarvis1781]

great tool...i will give a try and see how things turn out.

[D3s7]

New RC1 build available... see above for address and change info

[influenza]

seems somebody has been busy last night ;)

:thanks:

[MLS]

Good to see people looking into helping vobid projects. Just wanted to voice my support. :) If this tool eventually automates the Scenarist part of doing a vobid project, I will love you forever, well maybe only until dual layer burners are standard.

/MLS

[D3s7]

New RC1 posted which fixed a few issues with current posted version - updated to update.zip file as listed above.

RC2 will be released in the next few days.... this version included a new look, complete IFO processing (runs about 5x as fast this way), angle support.

Once I am fairly sure this new version is working properly (by people testing and letting me know) I'll start working on getting the actual scenario authored. PGC and VOBID!

[jarvis1781]

I would be willing to test any new versions you have...
I have the new collector's edition of The Lion King on DVD and it needs to be demuxed by VOBID. I have successfully reauthored it by hand but would like to see how your program would work with it. I know how the structure is supposed to end up so I would be able to give you good feed back.

let me know..

jarvis17_81@yahoo.com

[buzzqw]

me too ! (damn Xmen 1.5/2.5 !!!)
BHH

[barkilphedro]

Great Tool, I was looking around for something like this from long ago. Thank you D3s7.

[jarvis1781]

any new updates regarding the release?

[D3s7]

Working hard on it.... ran into some snags calculating Duration/Information for the Audio tracks which I'm attempting to iron out. (if any others out there would like to share info on drop-frame calculations and AC3/DTS headers I'd be much appreciated)

If I can't get them worked out in the next day or so I'm going to skip file/audio detection and work off imported files as current version does and worry about that after everything else is working correctly...

To be honest, I have only received feedback from a couple people on if it's working for them or not and have been working directly with them.

[d4g]

hello with scene aid i get hte following error when putting in the doitfast log and the scenarist script....

it imports the information then somes up with this error

run-time error '35601': element not found

could someone shed some light on this... so i can figured out how todo the vob id

regards d4g

[D3s7]

did you run the installer first or just grab the .exe?

That be the first thing I'd check...

make sure your path to ifoupdate is correct too..

If all that's fine then check your HKEY_Current_user/Software/SceneAid key

export that and email to me at the address above...

[d4g]

i ran the installer and the ifo update is fine.....

it imports the doitfast log fine
it comes up when i input the sceanarist file.....after it imorts the error comes up then when i click ok the program closes...?ill email u the key:

[d4g]

i dont have a scene aid key just ifoupdate path and default

[joaoccc]

Hello

with me sceneaid RC1 - give me an fatal error in scenarist when finish importing the script.

Regards

[D3s7]

d4g: when you run sceneaid and it dies, check you registry before running it again. key should be HKCU/Software/SceneAid - export that whole key

jaocc: email me your SceneAid.scp file - i'm interested in seeing where it's blowing up

- D3s7

[CplNet]

Im trying use your program but my scenarist crash when i load the sceneaid script :/

In field "demuxed VTS by DoItFast4U!" i leave blank or what ?

thankz

[D3s7]

email me your SceneAid.scp file...

Not sure what you mean by "VTS by DoItFast4u" - you need to select the Doitfast4u demux directory and the File you created in Scenarist.. it should do the rest..

[jarvis1781]

Originally posted by D3s7
New RC1 posted which fixed a few issues with current posted version - updated to update.zip file as listed above.

RC2 will be released in the next few days.... this version included a new look, complete IFO processing (runs about 5x as fast this way), angle support.

Once I am fairly sure this new version is working properly (by people testing and letting me know) I'll start working on getting the actual scenario authored. PGC and VOBID!

checking to see what kind of progress there is on a new release?
i wouldnt mind debugging a new version if you have one in the works

[D3s7]

My time tables are way off :D (looking back to when I said a few days)

I'm pretty close to releasing another version... I want to make sure all the bugs I can see are worked out...

I'm off all next week (isn't end of the year time off great) so I'll definitely have time to finish up the outstanding issues....

Currently I'm in the need of :
1) an accurate way to tell duration of audio (ac3/dts/pcm) - right now I import as place holders to get correct audio duration - I'm even willing to use an external cli compat program to read the info....

2) a logical reason why scenarist's frames -> BCD conversion seems off... 307 frames at 30fps (or 29.97) comes out to 00:00:10:06 - missing a frame as far as I can tell -- those of us who hate those 'different duration' warnings will appreciate this

Thanks for the patience from everyone..... hopefully it'll be worth the wait

[D3s7]

Well I've figured out #2 - all video imports so far have been accurate (yeah... no more duration warnings)..


Now if someone could give a hand with audio I'd be a real happy camper :D

[catx]

Hi, I would like to try sceneaid (I'm reautoring alien quadrilogy where each disc has more than 70 vob IDs) but the links seem to be dead :(
could you fix them?
thanx

[richto]

www.stressfactor.net seems to be down?

[catx]

if I try to ping stressfactor.net I get answered correctly, but when I open it in my browser I get a dns error

[hrg27]

Is there any other place that we can get ScenAid from ?

Thanks

[d4g]

great proggy by the way works well....

one thing that stumped me for a bit....
it generated my sub files and i imported the script into scenarist.... only with the wide setting selected......

in the track editior i couldnt see the subtitle streams but they r there... thats the funny thing... i had to use the navigation control to set the setting to wide/letter....

could u implement thats the script defauls to wide/letter..... for importing with scene aid...

other thing is it supposed to hide the stream like that after imoprting the script....

and it takes long to to the vob id layout..for somereson everytime i put a vob id or pgc on to a title i have to wait for it to stop thiunking and till it shows me that it has placed the item ....


Thanx

regards D4g

[catx]

Originally posted by d4g
great proggy by the way works well....

Could you send me the installation package?
catx@virgilio.it
Thanx :)

[D3s7]

Latest build is being tested by internal testers right now... if all goes well new version will be posted as early as later today...

Sorry it took so long but I didn't think it made sense to release a build before it was in good condition.

d4g: yeah that version had problems w/ aspect ratios.. should be fixed in this one..

[XadoX]

:thanks:

thats the Post I've been waiting for!

[hrg27]

Thanks for the effort.

I am trying to use SceneAid to back up the 3rd part of Alien.
As you said I located the dif4u folders as well as the script from scenarist (which was created after importing audio and video files)
But SceneAid gave me a runtime error and disappeared :(
Should I send the script to you or I am doing something wrong ?

hrg27

[hrg27]

I should add that the error message was:

Run-time error '35601':
Element not found

hrg27

[D3s7]

The version you have is pretty much history.. new version coming soon (yeah I know i've said that before)

Internal testers are testing now and we are hashing out the bugs.

[influenza]

And I must say this upcoming version is very promising :)

[hrg27]

Great ! Waiting for the new version imapatiently :p

[XadoX]

I can't wait anymore :D

[hrg27]

Any news on testing status of the new version ?

[influenza]

I've just succesfully completed a PAl scenario. Still some things to iron out, since I had to do some manual tweaking ;)

[D3s7]

Thanks to people like flu I've been cranking out fixes for the last 3 days.

We ran into a couple MAJOR ones (thanks to hoops and eyes`only and of course influenza)

I feel it's getting close to release :D

[htc10825]

the download links are dead - no mirrors?

[D3s7]

Ok guys.. need a little assistance here..

desperatly need code or an app that will create a dummy audio file based off type/channels/bitrate
type = ac3/dts/pcm

IE AC3,2,768

there's just too many possible combinations to have thse in the install dir like I currently do

Yes I know RA does this so it can be done

I'm trying to figure out the body of an ac3file myself (headers I have) but there's more to it then just modifying the header to make a valid ac3 file

[69Mws]

Originally posted by D3s7
Ok guys.. need a little assistance here..

desperatly need code or an app that will create a dummy audio file based off type/channels/bitrate
type = ac3/dts/pcm

IE AC3,2,768

there's just too many possible combinations to have thse in the install dir like I currently do

Yes I know RA does this so it can be done

I'm trying to figure out the body of an ac3file myself (headers I have) but there's more to it then just modifying the header to make a valid ac3 file

DSPGuru's 'BeSliced' produces dummy clips for ac3, but it doesn't support dts and pcm afaik.

But I saw in the audio section, that you're already onto something with jsoto :)

Greetz
69Mws

[influenza]

Besliced doesn't always work good for me. Besides that I don't know if it has cli support, which d3s7 probably needs.

[D3s7]

Well here's what I'm going to do for now (at least for ac3)

If a use doesn't demux any of the audio stream it doesn't matter what I pad with so that will be done w/ a 192k 2ch ac3 file

If a PGC just doesn't have audio it needs a pad so I'll be generating a dummy ac3 w/ besplit which does have CLI from one of the other PGC's audio

I think bsplit works w/ DTS too.... just not pcm

jsoto's app only support ac3 that I can see..

[htc10825]

so, i need a valid download link to try all what you are discussing...
nobody can help?

[69Mws]

Originally posted by htc10825
so, i need a valid download link to try all what you are discussing...
nobody can help?

AFAIK it's not for public download at the moment, only a few people have the recent beta.

Don't ask, I'm not one of them... ;)

Greetz
69Mws

[jsoto]

Hi,
Let me a couple of days, I'll try to add dts support (It was in my TODO list). May be this weekend..

Cheers

[jsoto]

Hi,

silence_exe.zip (http://www.iespana.es/jsoto/tools/sil_exe.zip)

sources (http://www.iespana.es/jsoto/tools/sil_src.zip)

I'm not happy with this code, but may be someone could use/improve it. Feel free to do whatever you want with it.

jsoto

[pcm1ke]

Has sceneaid RC-2 been released yet? =\

[D3s7]

Originally posted by jsoto
Hi,

silence_exe.zip (http://www.iespana.es/jsoto/tools/sil_exe.zip)

sources (http://www.iespana.es/jsoto/tools/sil_src.zip)

I'm not happy with this code, but may be someone could use/improve it. Feel free to do whatever you want with it.

jsoto

Thanks man... much appreciated

[hrg27]

I remember a slogan saying :

Why wait for version 2, if you can release a beta one :D

I am sure this is gonna be a killer app for most of us, because VOB-ID authoring is a real pain in the butt and if you could ease it just a little,

"Jesus will love you more than you will know." :D

Any news on the release date ?


Thanks

[VerbaL]

Sweet initiative! Good luck with your development D3s7!

Regards,
verb

[influenza]

reading all these post will distract him from developing ;)

[pcm1ke]

How's the application coming?

[D3s7]

SceneAid RC2 (Build 0.9.0.2) is now available to the public

A new site has been put up that will house Sceneaid from now on. (http://www.sceneaid.com) All future changelogs / updates will be posted up there...

Please remember this IS A BETA BUILD so remember to report any and all problems you may encounter.

Also please check your project over before burning (dvd-rw might be good)

Only post intelligent problems/questions. I don't really wanna see a load of "why didn't my....... work" without some more information :)

- D3s7

[hrg27]

It seems you are a night man too :)
First a big thanks for the wonderful work, it is going to save me a lot of time and eye strain

OK, I don't wanna call it a bug, but this is what happened:

I am backing up Aliens (part 2) and the main move is in VTS-02.

It has 31 PGCs from which the first 2 PGCs are the special edition and standard edition. PGC-03 to PGC-31 are some other stuff.

I successfully generated the script by SceneAid, it identified all the VOB-IDs and their corresponding audio files (2 audio file for each).
(Surprisingly to me it also found m2v files which are garbage and didn't need any CCE and beautifully showed them as inactive entities in the list, nice work :cool: )

So I imported the script into Scenarist and everything went smoothly, no complains :cool: I also checked that I didn't have any still audio.

When I hit the start button, it gave me the following message:

Aspect Ratio<4:3> in this PGC<VTS2_Title3_PGC3> is different from the one<16:9> in Title:<VTS2_Title3> VTS:<VTS_2>


I should mention that the whole project is a 16:9, I mean in my demuxed directory I only have one VTS folder,which of course is VTS02, and it is a 16:9

My guess is, PGC3 looks like an "extra" program chain rather than a "main" movie (it is only 1 minute), SceneAid has assumed it is a 4:3 video (like most of the extra features of a DVD), thus the error message.

I tried to fix the problem but I could not find anything that CAN be changed within the Scenarist. Everything related to ratios was grayed out so I couldn't modify them.

So I deleted VTS2_Title3_PGC3 from Scenario Editor and hit the start again, this time it gave me a lot of these errors:

Error The Color Palette in the cell<VTS2_Title1_PGC1_PG45_C1> is difference from the reference cell "VTS2_Title1_PGC1_PG1_C1".(PGC:"VTS2_Title1_PGC1"("Title:<VTS2_Title1> VTS:<VTS_2>"))

I checked the reference cell and it was a dummy track that was created by SceneAid to replace very small VOB-IDs that were used in PGC03 to PGC31 of the original ifo file (the track is called VTS02V66C1-dummy)
I checked the track in "Track Editor" and it showed that a 4:3 file was used : dummy_4_3_data. Again, the project is 16:9

Just to clarify the error more, another one was:

The Color Palette in the cell<VTS2_Title31_PGC31_PG2_C1> is difference from the reference cell "VTS2_Title31_PGC31_PG1_C1".(PGC:"VTS2_Title31_PGC31"("Title:<VTS2_Title31> VTS:<VTS_2>"))

in which <VTS2_Title31_PGC31_PG2_C1> links to VTS02_V82_C1 which is inside a dummy track created by SceneAid, whereas "VTS2_Title31_PGC31_PG1_C1" refers to VTS02_V56_C5 which is a real cell. I should add that all the links and references are right and they match with the information that I get from IfoEdit.

OK, I guess bitching is enough :scared:
Thanks
hrg27

[D3s7]

Well that's a new one...

Zip/Rar up your Sceneaid.scp file and email it to me....

I've experienced the palette error before.. thought I fixed it but lemme double check

Both should be fairly easy to fix

- D3s7

[d4g]

Severity: Error
Number: 5
Description: Invalid procedure call or argument

Nice Text:
Help Text:
User Name: DENIS-BOSS\Denis T
Computer: DENIS-BOSS
EXE Name: sceneaid
EXE Path: C:\Program Files\SceneAid
EXE Version: Version 0.9.2
Help File:
Help Context: 1000005

Call Stack (lowest level first)

DENIS-BOSS::Script_Generate::GenerateScript (line 3670)


does anyone know the error...

also with the dvd i am creating it does not have a vob id 10 but scene aid is creating a dummy one why is that even the ifo doesnt have the vob id 10

help is need thanx...

[Master Yoda]

I got the same error as d4g, except the computer name and the exe path are different.I also get it creating a dummy vobid.

[D3s7]

Ah the joys of betas :)

I'll take a look at the error tonight as soon as I get home.

The VOBID will be dummied if it doesn't exist -

If your saying it's not used AT ALL in your ifo, I'd like to take a look at that becuase it should only create dummy files for assets that are used in the layout but don't exist in the demux folders

- D3s7

[Master Yoda]

Yep, theres no vobid 8 in my ifo of this seamless disc.7 id's only, but scenaid wants to create a dummy vobid8.

[D3s7]

Build 0.9.0.3 is now posted on the site.

this build hopefully will address the errors you are getting during Script Generation.

Those of you who are having problems w/ the system generating a dummy file for a vobid/cell that doesn't exist please email me your sceneaid.scp and the .ifo of the VTS in question.

Thanks

- D3s7

[hrg27]

Hi

I just downloaded the latest release from the website, but unfortunately I got the same error message as before.

Aspect Ratio<4:3> in this PGC<VTS2_Title3_PGC3> is different from the one<16:9> in Title:<VTS2_Title3> VTS:<VTS_2>


When I check the data tab in Scenarist, I can see a dummy_16_9 video asset as well as a dummy_4_3.
And again dummy_4_3 has been used in tack generation. :(

Again I removed VTS2_Title3_PGC3 from scenario, and compiled and so far the compilation has gone smoothly. Interesting thing is that VTS2_Title3_PGC3 is the first non-main movie PGC and it has problem, but also there are PGC4 to PGC31 which all are non-main movie and they don't cause the above mentioned problem :confused: .

I should mention that I didn't get any color pallete related errors :)
I am sending you the script again ;)

Thanks
hrg27

[D3s7]

well a temporary fix till I figure out why it's linking the wrong dummy is to edit the Sceneaid.scp file and replace anything (except for the one in the Object=Data section) from dummy_4_3 to dummy_16_9

[Master Yoda]

I just downloaded the latest version and i cant even install it.
I get this error....

c:\windows\system32\vb6stkit.dll

an error occurred while trying to copy a file:
the source file is corrupt

Ive downloaded the file twice now.

[D3s7]

hrm.. did you try rebooting? sounds like the file is locked

[marpada]

Hey D3s7

I'm reckoning the minutes till going out of the office: a new project is waiting me at home to begin using your tool

Just two doubts about SceneAid (the documentation is not clear enough for me) :

1: Doest it support multiangles ?
2: Can it handle Matrix ? :scared:

If both answers are ok, it'll replace my dog for sure ! ;)

[Master Yoda]

Yep, ive rebooted and still get that problem.The earlyer version installs fine though.

[Trahald]

todays version installed fine for me (0903)

[Master Yoda]

OK, i installed the earlyer version , then uninstalled it , but when i got a message saying about this file is no longer being used, this time i kept it.But then i get the same error but with ErrorHandling.dll.So i install the earlyer version again, uninstall it and keep the files it says no longer in use.But i still get the same error but with sceneaid.exe

[D3s7]

Ok guys.... we're going to close this thread and start a new one so we can keep version by version errors.


can one of the mod's close this thread please..

Thanks

- D3s7