I still can't get Vobsub subtitles to show in matroska

[kastro68]

I have installed the most recent matroska splitter 1019 and VSFilter 2.30.

I used mkvmerge 077 to mux an avi an idx and an aac (mp4). I even tried the most recent mkvmerge uploaded by mosu.

The file muxes fine and no error is displayed when the muxed file is played in WMP or MPC. I haven't tried tcmp5 yet.

DirectVobsub loads when I play the file but no subtitles are shown.
I also tried using override placement just in case the subtitle were offscreen.

I used the subtitle tool that came with Gordian knot 02862 to extract the vobsubs. This gave me and *.idx file and a *.sub file.

On a different note,
Sometimes when i mux an srt file using mkvmerge, the srt subtitles don't show. This is not really a problem because I can just keep remuxing till the srt subs show.

Does anyone know what I am doing wrong? Did I miss something?

I have read all 6 pages the other thread.

[Atamido]

Run mkvinfo on your file to make sure that there are blocks for the vobsubs contained in the file.

[ivanova]

You might try to change the output settings in MPC. I had to check 'Use regular offscreen plain surfaces' in the VRM7/9 settings.

[gizmotech]

I've noted the same problem. Mosu mentioned a post in the latest mkvmerge thread which has a post from gabest. Gabest states his filter isn't properly playing them back atm, and his code needs a bit of work.

If you have a look through your encode you will probably find that a vobsub subtitle shows up quite consistently every now and then. Just not all of em show.

All we can do is wait on Gabest for a new filter.

[kastro68]

@All
When using srt subtitles, does the order in which I add them into the mmg gui matter? Sometimes when i add the srt then the avi then the mp4 I get no subtitles.




@gizmotech
It's nice to know that I'm not the only one experiencing this problem.

The only weird thing is that it seems to work for everyone else...otherwise there would be more threads on this issue.




@ivanova
You might try to change the output settings in MPC. I had to check 'Use regular offscreen plain surfaces' in the VRM7/9 settings.

I tried it, it still doesn't show.


Originally posted by Pamel
Run mkvinfo on your file to make sure that there are blocks for the vobsubs contained in the file.


I have no idea what to look for.


(MKVInfo) + EBML head at 0
(MKVInfo) + Segment at 24
(MKVInfo) |+ Seek head at 36
(MKVInfo) | + Seek entry at 41
(MKVInfo) | + Seek ID: 0x15 0x49 0xa9 0x66 (KaxInfo) at 44
(MKVInfo) | + Seek position: 102 at 51
(MKVInfo) | + Seek entry at 55
(MKVInfo) | + Seek ID: 0x16 0x54 0xae 0x6b (KaxTracks) at 58
(MKVInfo) | + Seek position: 200 at 65
(MKVInfo) | + Seek entry at 69
(MKVInfo) | + Seek ID: 0x11 0x4d 0x9b 0x74 (KaxSeekHead) at 72
(MKVInfo) | + Seek position: 740168955 at 79
(MKVInfo) | + Seek entry at 86
(MKVInfo) | + Seek ID: 0x1c 0x53 0xbb 0x6b (KaxCues) at 89
(MKVInfo) | + Seek position: 740148493 at 96
(MKVInfo) |+ EbmlVoid (size: 33) at 103
(MKVInfo) |+ Segment information at 138
(MKVInfo) | + Muxing application: libebml v0.6.2 + libmatroska v0.6.1 at 143
(MKVInfo) | + Writing application: mkvmerge v0.7.5 at 181
(MKVInfo) | + Duration: 6049.227s at 199
(MKVInfo) | + Date: Thu Nov 20 13:04:57 2003 UTC at 206
(MKVInfo) | + Segment UID: 0x2d 0x8f 0x77 0x05 0xa8 0x05 0x12 0x26 0xe7 0x2b 0xb6 0xb1 0x82 0x89 0x5a 0xb7 at 217
(MKVInfo) |+ Segment tracks at 236
(MKVInfo) | + A track at 242
(MKVInfo) | + Track number: 1 at 244
(MKVInfo) | + Track UID: 1797396162 at 247
(MKVInfo) | + Track type: video at 254
(MKVInfo) | + MinCache: 1 at 257
(MKVInfo) | + Codec ID: V_MS/VFW/FOURCC at 261
(MKVInfo) | + CodecPrivate, length 40 (FourCC: XVID, 0x44495658) at 278
(MKVInfo) | + MaxCache: 1 at 321
(MKVInfo) | + Default duration: 41.708ms (23.976 fps for a video track) at 325
(MKVInfo) | + Video track at 333
(MKVInfo) | + Pixel width: 512 at 335
(MKVInfo) | + Pixel height: 384 at 339
(MKVInfo) | + Display width: 512 at 343
(MKVInfo) | + Display height: 384 at 348
(MKVInfo) | + Lacing flag: 0 at 353
(MKVInfo) | + A track at 356
(MKVInfo) | + Track number: 2 at 358
(MKVInfo) | + Track UID: 3948556236 at 361
(MKVInfo) | + Track type: audio at 368
(MKVInfo) | + Codec ID: A_AAC/MPEG4/LC/SBR at 371
(MKVInfo) | + Language: kor at 391
(MKVInfo) | + Audio track at 398
(MKVInfo) | + Sampling frequency: 22050.000000 at 400
(MKVInfo) | + Channels: 2 at 406
(MKVInfo) | + Output sampling frequency: 44100.000000 at 409
(MKVInfo) | + A track at 416
(MKVInfo) | + Track number: 3 at 418
(MKVInfo) | + Track UID: 3304337256 at 421
(MKVInfo) | + Track type: subtitles at 428
(MKVInfo) | + Codec ID: S_TEXT/UTF8 at 431
(MKVInfo) | + Lacing flag: 0 at 444
(MKVInfo) | + A track at 447
(MKVInfo) | + Track number: 4 at 450
(MKVInfo) | + Track UID: 217976204 at 453
(MKVInfo) | + Track type: subtitles at 460
(MKVInfo) | + Codec ID: S_VOBSUB at 463
(MKVInfo) | + CodecPrivate, length 346 at 473
(MKVInfo) | + Default flag: 0 at 823
(MKVInfo) | + Content encodings at 826
(MKVInfo) | + Content encoding at 829
(MKVInfo) | + Content compression at 832
(MKVInfo) | + Lacing flag: 0 at 835
(MKVInfo) |+ Cluster at 838

[gizmotech]

@kastro86

About the more threads issue, you're making the assumption there are that many people out there who a) are following mkv closely enough to know the vobsub improvements are in now b) are currently performing tests c) Are active enough to post feedback.

As well, some subs seem to work perfectly, where as others don't. It's largely random and dependent on the DVD itself.

Gizmo.

[Palikrovol]

New gabest VSFilter 2.31 (it is supossed to fix the issue with vobsub in matroska)

But i still have the same problem (some subtitles are shown and other are not).

I have verify the mkv with mkvinfo -v and all the subtitles are in the file (timestamps are ok).

@Gizmo, kastro68, Human_USB:
do you still have the same problems with the new filters?

[gizmotech]

Not that I saw.

Looking at my test encode of vobsubs it looked like they were there once I updated vsfilter. Though I didn't check em all.

gizmo

[kastro68]

@Gizmo, kastro68, Human_USB:
do you still have the same problems with the new filters? [/B][/QUOTE]


Yes. I am still experiencing the same problems with 2.31. I can't get any Vobsub subtitles to show at all.

I haven't got around to trying it on another system yet. For all I know, it may be my box setup that is at fault.

[RathO]

@gizmotech: i have discussed about this problem before with mosu and the final tip was: wait for an update from Gabest...

Maybe its my PC's fault, i dunno.. but i know my WinXP needs a fresh install... you know, we mess around with codecs and filters all the time :p

Regards

[ChristianHJW]

If there are still issues with vobsub in MKV, we have to investigate and to report to mosu and gabest.

VLC 0.7.0 is to come soon ( i have a pre already on my HDD ), and it should support vobsub in MKV also. I will keep you guys updated about its release, and would like to ask you to test it on your existing files ....

[DanielSun]

i muxed xvid+aac(from mp4 file)+vobsub(idx)=mkv

VSFilter loads when i play it in MPC.
But there is no subs.

how to fix it?

Thanks!

[DanielSun]

using VSfilter 2.33
Gabest's splliter 1.0.2.3
MPC 6.4.8.0
MMG from MKVTOOLNIX 0.8.8

[Atamido]

Try using another player and see if it works there.

[DanielSun]

Originally posted by Pamel
Try using another player and see if it works there.

I tried BSPlayer ,Windows Media Player.
PB still there !

Thanks for your reply!

Regards.
Danielsun.

[ChristianHJW]

You maybe have an old version of vobsub installed ?

[DanielSun]

Originally posted by ChristianHJW
You maybe have an old version of vobsub installed ?


I've make it clear in my post that i am using VSFilter 2.33.

Thank you all the same!

**PB is fixed. It seemed my vobsub file(idx and sub) is broken or something.

Maybe is a color issue?
How to set the right color in the vobsub configure when sub color is wrong?
I mean there are four colors right? Is there an ultimate setting that suits all subs?

Regards.
Danielsun.

[Nibor]

Originally posted by DanielSun
I've make it clear in my post that i am using VSFilter 2.33.
Yes, but if you would have had an old VobSub installed it might have interfered with the new VSFilter.
This is what ChristianHJW meant with his question. :)

Good that the problem is gone, cheers!
nibor

[DanielSun]

Originally posted by Nibor
Yes, but if you would have had an old VobSub installed it might have interfered with the new VSFilter.
This is what ChristianHJW meant with his question. :)

Good that the problem is gone, cheers!
nibor


Oh, i got it! Sorry to ChristianHJW for my mis-understanding!

Regards.
Danielsun.