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Chu
8th November 2003, 20:54
Hello all. About a week ago I bought a copy of IC8 to handle some DVD's that were just too big of a pain to do with the Big 3 manually for various reasons (the most common being multiple pgc's pointing to the same video, or chapter points being less then 4 seconds from the end of a pgc, which a certain company LOVES to do). Out of 6 disks, I have had 4 failures. Two hard failures (the disc failed to be created correctly), and 2 soft failures (IC8 didn't do what I wanted it to do). First, the hard failures:

DVD : Magic Knight Rayeart 2 Vol. 1

When transcoding this DVD, I have one of two things happen. Either it hard crashed around 73%, or it said it finished at 73% done, with the image it creates being only about 3.something gigs. I did not check to see if this image is complete, assuming it is not . . .

DVD : Noir vol. 4

It is cutting material. Even when I specifically choose to use the custom dialogue to choose all the material I want, it still cuts out all the trailers. The final DVD is the correct size though, so it somewhere it is choosing to cut these out reguardless of what I tell it to do (unless there is a setting missing somewhere).

Now, the soft failures, i.e. DVD's where it just did not do what I was expecting. First a note, when I said did not do what I was expecting, I mean that I edited the hidden settings in the registry to the following to try to get the best video possible. I do not have IC on this computer, and do not have an inet connection at home so I can't tell you the exact settings I used, but the following should describe it. I set the MAX dvd size to the real max, and the target size 1 meg left with 0% insecurity in both fast and regular mode. I set it to process 100% of the video, and the min size to process as 2500 megs (I am wondering, if I set it to 100%/1, will it still do the entire video? Theoritically it should, and might fix these problems, gotta try that). It is set to switch to fast mode at 100% i.e. theoritically it should not be using fast mode at all.

DVD : Love Hina Again

The first time I did this DVD, it did the normal 5 pass encode, and then crashed around 80% because I triggered the task manager bug by accident. Now, it always only does one pass on this DVD.

DVD : Magic Knight Rayearth Vol. 1

I am not sure this is is necessarly the wrong behaviour. Usually, it seems IC likes to do the 5 pass thing in normal mode. On this DVD, it does 1 pass reguardless.

Thanks in advance for any help.

-Chu

MackemX
11th November 2003, 16:29
Originally posted by Chu
Hello all. About a week ago I bought a copy of IC8 to handle some DVD's that were just too big of a pain to do with the Big 3 manually for various reasons (the most common being multiple pgc's pointing to the same video, or chapter points being less then 4 seconds from the end of a pgc, which a certain company LOVES to do). Out of 6 disks, I have had 4 failures. Two hard failures (the disc failed to be created correctly), and 2 soft failures (IC8 didn't do what I wanted it to do). First, the hard failures:

DVD : Magic Knight Rayeart 2 Vol. 1

When transcoding this DVD, I have one of two things happen. Either it hard crashed around 73%, or it said it finished at 73% done, with the image it creates being only about 3.something gigs. I did not check to see if this image is complete, assuming it is not . . .
is the bit where it's crashing dark? There was a bug in the earlier versions and apparently it still affects some DVD's but not as manyOriginally posted by Chu

DVD : Noir vol. 4

It is cutting material. Even when I specifically choose to use the custom dialogue to choose all the material I want, it still cuts out all the trailers. The final DVD is the correct size though, so it somewhere it is choosing to cut these out reguardless of what I tell it to do (unless there is a setting missing somewhere).this will be due to linked titles and sometimes IC get's confused and misses stuffOriginally posted by Chu


Now, the soft failures, i.e. DVD's where it just did not do what I was expecting. First a note, when I said did not do what I was expecting, I mean that I edited the hidden settings in the registry to the following to try to get the best video possible. I do not have IC on this computer, and do not have an inet connection at home so I can't tell you the exact settings I used, but the following should describe it. I set the MAX dvd size to the real max, and the target size 1 meg left with 0% insecurity in both fast and regular mode. I set it to process 100% of the video, and the min size to process as 2500 megs (I am wondering, if I set it to 100%/1, will it still do the entire video? Theoritically it should, and might fix these problems, gotta try that). It is set to switch to fast mode at 100% i.e. theoritically it should not be using fast mode at all.
putting it to 100% will only mean the initial DVD analysis will take ages and it will not fix all your issues. 100% is overkill and at the most I have used 30% if I'm not fussed about the time it takesOriginally posted by Chu

DVD : Love Hina Again

The first time I did this DVD, it did the normal 5 pass encode, and then crashed around 80% because I triggered the task manager bug by accident. Now, it always only does one pass on this DVD.you need to delete the discdata files that IC has if you want it to do a new fresh pass. It analyses the DVD and stores it for later use so it doesn't have to do an analysis everytime it loads the same DVDOriginally posted by Chu


DVD : Magic Knight Rayearth Vol. 1

I am not sure this is is necessarly the wrong behaviour. Usually, it seems IC likes to do the 5 pass thing in normal mode. On this DVD, it does 1 pass reguardless.

Thanks in advance for any help.

-Chu if you want it to do the 5 pass again the delete the discdata files in the IC folder

Chu
13th November 2003, 05:25
Originally posted by MackemX
is the bit where it's crashing dark? There was a bug in the earlier versions and apparently it still affects some DVD's but not as many[/b]this will be due to linked titles and sometimes IC get's confused and misses stuff[/b]putting it to 100% will only mean the initial DVD analysis will take ages and it will not fix all your issues. 100% is overkill and at the most I have used 30% if I'm not fussed about the time it takes[/b]you need to delete the discdata files that IC has if you want it to do a new fresh pass. It analyses the DVD and stores it for later use so it doesn't have to do an analysis everytime it loads the same DVD if you want it to do the 5 pass again the delete the discdata files in the IC folder [/B]

Woohoo, a reply! I suppose there is nothing I can really do about the Noir disk (that series seems a PAIN to transcode in gnereal), but I'll see if the 'dark bug' is what is causing the MKR crash. Any chance you know the extention on the disk data files I need to delete, or will it be obvious when I get home? (no inet connection there thanks to the ISP from hell)

-Chu

MackemX
13th November 2003, 11:30
if it isn't obvious to you when you get home then discdata.add & discdata.adi are the 2 files I think and both are in the discdata folder

just do a search in your program files for 'discdata' and you will see them :)

monomer
13th November 2003, 20:11
So MX... In my book, you've always been the authority on IC (bugs and all) and you've traditionally been one of its biggest supporters in the past. Could you give me an honest appraisal of the new IC8? Where do you think its place is among the one-click solutions (including DVD2SVCD and DVD2DVD-R) and how does it compare to earlier versions.

(I know I should have probably started a new thread for this question but somehow it also seemed appropritate in a thread having to do with old IC problems coming back to haunt the lastest version... also it already had your attention.)

So "wadaya think?"

MackemX
13th November 2003, 21:04
I cannot really comment on IC8 as I have only tested it (put some work in tho:)) and that was way back in August/September as I don't use it at all. During testing I did get some very satisfactory results with a few tweaks but it's all down to certain factors. IC8 is a bit like IC7 I suppose, apart from the undersizing regarding 2.35:1 in IC7, it's worked just fine for me as long as I treat it right and make the odd mod here and there to compensate. I never completed the burning process as I was just a tester

even though I don't use IC I do not use anything else either. My burner is just collecting dust as I just play with DVD's learning new tricks, tips and overcoming new issues and help the guys on the forum if anything pops up that I may have an answer for ;)

I'm just a troubleshooter I suppose and I couldn't really comment where it belongs in the one clickers as one man's meat is another man's poison :devil:

sorry I can't help you more :)