Extra frames after ripping?

[jupiterean]

Hi,

I am practicing ripping on my copy of Die Another Day. After ripping and splitting the movie into two by using IfoEdit, I played back the two parts (Disc1 and Disc2) and saw some extra frames appear (such as one of the filmmakers giving comments). Any idea how I can get rid of these extra frames from the main movie?

Many thanks,

J

[killingspree]

hi and welcome to the forum,
which program did you use to rip the DVD, or even better what mode did you use!

furthermore and excerpt of the ifo file showing the DVD structure would help quite a bit! (only VTS with the main movie)

steVe

[jupiterean]

Thank you, Steve.

I used DVD Decrypter, file mode for ripping. The problem occurs in the splitted parts of the movie. I think it has to do with angles. Some how cells belonging to both angles are played back. Do you think that removing the P-UPs may have caused the problem ? I splitted the movie again and this time I did not hit the Remove P-UPs button, and the problem is gone now. But it bothers me that I do not understand all this and have to grope in the dark and hit a solution accidentally.

I have another problem with subtitles too. The IFO file told me there are subtitles but I cannot activate them. The closed captioning is activated but the display is bad. The text for one scene still stays on even when the text for another scene is displayed, resulting in a jumble of letters. Do you have any suggestion to eliminate this problem?

I opened the IFO files in IFOEdit and the program does not allow me to copy and paste what is displayed in the window. I notice that under PGC_1 (program chain) certain cells have either Angle 1 or Angle 2 (before splitting). After splitting instead of Angle 1 or 2, I see IlVu. Does that mean anything?

Again, many thanks for your help.

J

[jupiterean]

I am at a loss now. Yesterday I played Disc1 and there's no extra frames showing behind-the-scene stuffs. Today I played the same disc1 and these frames suddenly appeared right in the middle of a scene in the main movie. The same thing happened with subtitles: now you see it, now you don't. I use PowerDVD to play back.

J

[killingspree]

hi again,
Originally posted by jupiterean

I used DVD Decrypter, file mode for ripping. The problem occurs in the splitted parts of the movie. I think it has to do with angles. Some how cells belonging to both angles are played back. Do you think that removing the P-UPs may have caused the problem ?

well you are right and wrong :) imho i think this IS related with angles, but i have strong doubts that it is connected with the removing of P-UPs!
to avoid the angle problem, you should rip in ifo mode, which i would personally recommend for any ripping operations anyway (if you're not using iso mode). just activate the ifo mode, then select the main PGC (if it isn't selected automatically) and in the tree menu, there should be two angles below the PGC, just click on one angle - either one you like - and hit rip. this way you'll get a set of vobs which just contain this one angle which should remove all repeating or misplaced scenes!

I have another problem with subtitles too. The IFO file told me there are subtitles but I cannot activate them. The closed captioning is activated but the display is bad. The text for one scene still stays on even when the text for another scene is displayed, resulting in a jumble of letters. Do you have any suggestion to eliminate this problem?
well when you ripped in file mode with DVDdecrypter (or when you converted your files) the multiangle information got lost. therefore the player in the end assumed it is only dealing with a single stream vob file and simply played it from the beginning to the end.

anyway, if you follow the above mentioned proceture you won't have this problem anymore too. :)

I opened the IFO files in IFOEdit and the program does not allow me to copy and paste what is displayed in the window.

if you look to the bottom of the program, pretty much in the middle, there's a button called 'Copy2Clipboard'. just highlight the passages you want to copy and then hit this button :) if you could post this under the ["Code"] tags (button with the #) it will also stay formated pretty much in the same way as it was in ifoedit!


I notice that under PGC_1 (program chain) certain cells have either Angle 1 or Angle 2 (before splitting). After splitting instead of Angle 1 or 2, I see IlVu. Does that mean anything?

exactly as I said above, the multiangle information simply got lost!

I am at a loss now. Yesterday I played Disc1 and there's no extra frames showing behind-the-scene stuffs. Today I played the same disc1 and these frames suddenly appeared right in the middle of a scene in the main movie. The same thing happened with subtitles: now you see it, now you don't. I use PowerDVD to play back.

strange, that i have to admit, but most likely caused by some missing information in the ifo file... just see if the above works and if not, we'll have to see what else we can try!

hth
steVe

[jupiterean]

Hello and Happy Halloween.

I ripped in the IFO mode, selecting only Angle 1 in the main VTS. I can't play it back from the hard disk. In the file mode after ripping I have a file named VIDEO_TS.IFO, and clicking on this file will start PowerDVD playing the movie from the hard disk. The IFO mode does not give me the file VIDEO_TS.IFO, so I'm stuck there.

Anyway I don't think that the problem comes from ripping in the file mode. You see, the angle information is still there after ripping in the file mode. That information was lost only after splitting the movie into two parts.

I've been able to find out a bit more about what caused the problem. In the main menu of this movie there are options to turn on/off the behind-the-scene frames. These options still work after ripping, but they stop working after the splitting. In the menus in Disc1 and Disc2 I can still turn subtitles on and off, but cannot turn off the extra frames anymore. Somehow during the splitting process, that option was disabled (probably related to the loss of the angle info.)

That's all I have to report at this time. Thanks again for your time and attention.

J

[jupiterean]

Whew! I have solved the problems!

Instead of using DVD Decrypter to rip, I used the Re-authoring tool in DVD Shrink. I dragged only Angle 1 into the new disk. After ripping I have a new disk with just one angle together with all subtitles and all the necessary IFO files. I splitted this new disk and everything was okie-dokie.

Thanks for you valuable input :D

J