divx 5.1 - size of the final avi

[ddro]

i use gknot 0.28.6.1 in order to convert a dvd into avi. i follow the divx5 guide from doom9 site, but in the end my avi file is 1200 mb instead of 1400, using divx 5.1.
i checked over and over again all the settings, but still the outcome is the same. i can't figure out what i'm doing wrong.
the same happened when i used divx 5.0.2 or 5.0.3
can someone help me, please.
thank a lot!!!

[Tuning]

Welcome to forum ddro,

First of all specify what type(NTSC,PAL..)video are you using.If it is NTSC,do you IVTC'd to 23.976 fps?

[JensG.]

Have a look into the FAQ and the stickies!
There is a sticky called "Undersized Files. Why do I get them, and what do I do about it?"

[ddro]

Originally posted by JensG.
Have a look into the FAQ and the stickies!
There is a sticky called "Undersized Files. Why do I get them, and what do I do about it?"

i've read them twice all ready, but still no answer 4 me. it's odd because before when i used divx 3 or 4 this was not occured in the process.

[ddro]

Originally posted by Tuning
Welcome to forum ddro,

First of all specify what type(NTSC,PAL..)video are you using.If it is NTSC,do you IVTC'd to 23.976 fps?

my source is ntsc , 29 fps , 98 % film, and as long as i remember, i don't need to perform ITVC.
later i choose 23.976 fps instead the original 29 fps in gknot, without doing the IVTC. did i do wrong? in other occasion (meaning with divx3 or 4) i choose the same settings and i got what i was waiting 4.
please tell me what do you think it's necessary to tell U (like log files, settings,etc) in order to be able to help me to identified and solve this problem.
thank you a lot!
have a nice day!!!

[manono]

Hi-

i've read them twice all ready, but still no answer 4 me.

Yes, the answer is there. Just because you were able to fill 2 CDs when previously using DivX 3.11 or DivX 4 has nothing to do with your current movie (assuming it's a different movie). Different movies compress differently. Evidently you're working with an easy to compress movie. So take the advice in the sticky to which JensG. referred you. Raise the resolution, give it better quality audio, don't use B-Frames, don't use any spatial or temporal filters you might be using, etc. You've maxed out the file size. Don't believe that? Then do a 1-pass encoding at quant 2 (not through GKnot, but directly in VDubMod) and see if the file size is much larger.

Or redo the movie for 1 CD with MP3 audio. It should fit with decent quality.

later i choose 23.976 fps instead the original 29 fps in gknot,

Are you saying you didn't use Force Film? If you Force Filmed, you get a 23.976fps .d2v, and it will say that when you open it in GKnot. The usual advice is if the movie shows as 98% Film in DVD2AVI, then you use Force Film and no IVTC is necessary. So if you're not sure if you did right, posting the log file might help us to figure it out.

[ddro]

i guess last time i forgot to check forced film. i will try again.
btw , i use a max resolution(704/304) and the audio it's the original ac3 file: no filters,no B-frames i just follow the doom9 guide step by step, no exception.
thank u very much

Originally posted by manono
Hi-

i've read them twice all ready, but still no answer 4 me.

Yes, the answer is there. Just because you were able to fill 2 CDs when previously using DivX 3.11 or DivX 4 has nothing to do with your current movie (assuming it's a different movie). Different movies compress differently. Evidently you're working with an easy to compress movie. So take the advice in the sticky to which JensG. referred you. Raise the resolution, give it better quality audio, don't use B-Frames, don't use any spatial or temporal filters you might be using, etc. You've maxed out the file size. Don't believe that? Then do a 1-pass encoding at quant 2 (not through GKnot, but directly in VDubMod) and see if the file size is much larger.

Or redo the movie for 1 CD with MP3 audio. It should fit with decent quality.

later i choose 23.976 fps instead the original 29 fps in gknot,

Are you saying you didn't use Force Film? If you Force Filmed, you get a 23.976fps .d2v, and it will say that when you open it in GKnot. The usual advice is if the movie shows as 98% Film in DVD2AVI, then you use Force Film and no IVTC is necessary. So if you're not sure if you did right, posting the log file might help us to figure it out.

[manono]

Hi again-

Although I've seen movies so compressible that even with the specs you detailed, they didn't fill the 2 CDs, based on those specs, the problem is most likely that you didn't choose Force Film and changed the fps in GKnot. If you check the log file you might see something like "Error: Number of frames not matching". Something like that. Redoing the .d2v should fix the problem. Good Luck.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Hi ddro

Welcome to the forum.

Were is RO? I can only think of Romania!

You should be able to get excellent looking DivX5 encodes onto 2 CD-R's. Even if you decided to keep the AC3 audio stream!

But please clarify....

What movie are you trying to encode and how long is it?
How many CD's do you want to use?
What audio stream do you want to use Mp3 or AC3?

Cheers

[jggimi]

And if you would :logfile: we might be able to see something in your procedure that could be corrected or improved.

[ddro]

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
Hi ddro

Welcome to the forum.

Were is RO? I can only think of Romania!

You should be able to get excellent looking DivX5 encodes onto 2 CD-R's. Even if you decided to keep the AC3 audio stream!

But please clarify....

What movie are you trying to encode and how long is it?
How many CD's do you want to use?
What audio stream do you want to use Mp3 or AC3?

Cheers

the movie it's Mr Deeds , it's 1 and a half hour long or so, i want to make a 1400 mb avi file, and the sound to be ac3.

btw: yes, RO comes from Romania