Having problems with Scenarist (Upon image creation), can anybod help?

[NooK]

Hello. I just bought a new PC and I am dieing to try my new DVD burner. Read a lot the last couple of days about how to authro a DVD and finally after spending about a whole day playing with Scenarist, after I had everything ready, I press start and all I get is

"Info
Info Creating DVD Files
Error The Subpicture Attribute(Language and so on) For 4:3 in PGC<Hackers Meny_5-t-pgc>:Stream<0>:Title<Title_1> is different from The Reference PGC<hackers_cover-t-pgc>
Error The Subpicture Attribute(Language and so on) For 4:3 in PGC<mhackers (divx)-t-pgc>:Stream<0>:Title<Title_1> is different from The Reference PGC<hackers_cover-t-pgc>
Error PreCheck From DB failed
Error DVD files could not be created
"


I was wondering if anybody could help me??

Basically I setup a main menu with 2 buttons (Play and Subtitle), play jumps to the Movie PGC (Pre) and Subtitle jumps to another menu where we have "Portuguese" and "None".

Portuguese just sets 1st subtitle on and jumps back to main menu, and None just sets Audio Stream to 1 (I am not sure if I can use the dummy subtitle to set no subtitle in the movie so I'll leave it like that to avoid errors for now) and jumps back to main menu (Both jump bac to Pre).

Last link is from Movie PGC (Post) to Main Menu (Pre).

I was wondering if anybody could help me. Have searched through the forum for an anwer failing to find one and also nothing I could find on the net.

Any help appreciated.

Would like to thank Doom 9 a lot for the guides.

Best Regards

NooK

[NooK]

Forgot to say I found this website

http://www.google.se/search?q=cache:e6IXMSacn1sJ:dadude.eternalnintendo.nl/forum/viewtopic.php%3Fp%3D1790+%22The+Subpicture+Attribute%22&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8

which seems that someone had a similar problem but I can't read dutch :(, any help appreciated.

Best Regards

NooK

[burnttoast]

I'm pretty sure this happens because your subpicture languages are not the same.If your putting your menus into a language folder of a vts this probably won't happen.If you put the menus in a pgc or a seprate title in the same vts with the movie that has subpictures,your going have to make sure all the subs(including the menus)are set to the same language.

[NooK]

Thanks for the tip but I am having problems distinguing Language and Titles??

I mean if I set the main movie PGC into a language folder and all menys into a title folder I can't have a play button because it doesn't allow me to jump to the PGC on the language folder (At least I couldn't find it).

The other way around (Movie on title and menus on Language) looks kinda weird and also doesn't allow properlly jumping from one to the other.

If I put everything into the language menu it won't allow me to compile as it claims I can't have an empty title and the other weay around I get an error as I said before.

Could you explain me what should I use Title for and the Language menu for and what is their normal use on comercial DVDs???

Just one more question what is PGRM??

Thanks again.

Best Regards

NooK

[burnttoast]

I would put the movie in the title folder of vts1 and the menus in a language folder of vts1.It might look weird but hey.It should allow jumping within that vts.

Language folders are the vts_x_0.vob and have the menu type things inside.Title folders are the vts_xx_1 and above vobs and have movie type things in them.

The best way to find out how these things are used on commercial dvds is to see where the different pieces are.Open up the different vobs in something like vobrator and see how it looks.This will give you some ideas on where the clips are stored.Then open one of your projects in vobrator and see where your peices end up.

Using the forum search I found this to be a helpful post
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?threadid=25469&highlight=gprm

Heres a definition givin by Jestorius in another post.
GPRM -> Generel Parameter Memory-> Memory location available in DVD player to store a Command Sequence for later use by any other Command Sequence. It is like Ram in your PC.

[NooK]

Thanks a lot m8, great link you posted.

One last question if I may.

I spent 2 whole days playing with it now and I got it to compile but not exactly the way I wanted it.

My problem is, I add Title menu to VideoManager/Language (English), a subtitle option menu to VTS_1/Language and the main movie to VTS_1/Title_1.

My problem now is that I have a subtitle which I would like to add to this movie but couldn't figure a good way yet.

If I just add the subtitle to the track where I have the main movie and audio, I have to say that the subtitle is of same language of the movie (English, which is wrong because subtitle is in portuguese) to be able to compile and I cannot take away the subtitle when playing in a standalone dvd player (Or can I?? Not really sure).

So my question is where to add a subtitle for the main movie which has a different language than the movie audio track and that I can take away (Like "None" option) if I want to. Then in the subtitle option menu I have 2 buttons, "Portuguese" and "None" I know that to set portuguese I just have to ste the button for "Set subtitle" command but how to get the "None" button to turn off any subtitle (Maybe the "Dummy" subtitle track??)?

Thanks again for your attention, I have managed to link the menus under language now but a bit confusing because I never know when to use "Jump to PGC", "Jump to Title" or "Jump to part of a title" and so on.

Best Regards

NooK

[burnttoast]

The whole idea behind subtitles is so a person who doesn't understand the language of the audio will be able to understand the movie by reading the subtitles.I think you'll be able to set the subs in the movie to any language you want as long as your menus are in a language folder.
To set your subtitle/none button you could try setting it up like your subtitle/on button.Just untick the display substream box.Try it out and see if it works.
The deffinition about gprms is pretty much right,but you might want to think that they store a value that can activate a command.

[NooK]

Thanks m8, I actually used GPRMs in the subtitle menu and in the movie PGC (Pre) I ust check for values of a certain GPRM and depending on the value I set the right subtitles.

I hadn't found a reason for the "Display subpicture" option but it makes sense now, if I understand right it turns off the subtitles. Thanks for the tip.

There is just 2 small things left in my head which are not big but just out of curiosity.

1 - What is the difference between GPRM and SPRM. If I understood right SPRM are not only variables which you can set to a value but the DVD player also can change them is that right? But do they have a fixed value (I mean is SPRM20 always Player Region Code???). But what happpens if I set them to a value, I mean can you give me an example of how an SPRM could be used?

2 - In normal DVDs when one presses the Menu button you go back to the main menu of the DVD and if you press the Play button again (On the menu, not the remote) the movie most of the times resume from where you stopped. Right now I can't do so since I jump from Menu PGC to movie PGC, so how is that done??

Most appreciated again.

Best Regards

NooK

[burnttoast]

I'm still a newbie to all this dvd authoring stuff so my answers can be a little off the mark on some of this stuff.

As far as I can tell theres no direct way to change a sprm vaule like you can with a gprm.That dosen't mean you can indirecty change it.Seeing how this thread started with subtiles well use a subtile example.If you put a movgprm5,65 and a setsubpicture=gprm5 as pre commands for your movie title subpicture 2 will be displayed.If you change the 65 to 64 subtitle 1 will show up,change it to 63 and noting will show.The dvd player uses the value in sprm2 to find out what sub to play.We didn't change sprm2 directly but we did change it by using gprm5 to give it a certian value.One way to setup your subtitles is to have the pre for the title be setsubpicture=gprm5.Have subtitle menu buttons be that setubpicture,immediate,whatever stream your going to use,tick the box for display or not for no,and likn it back to your main menu command.In your main menu have the playbutton link to a blank rootmenu in the vts language folder of your movie.in the blank rootmenu have a precommand movgprm5,sprm2 and jump to tile.It might be a little bit overdiong it for a 2 menu 1subtitled movie but,you can see how we took the sprm2 value,changed it to a gprm value,and then let the dvd player convert it back to the sprm2 value.At least thats what i think is happening,well kinda anyway.

As far as when to use the right jump to tile,jump to pcg command.Thats kinda like baking a cake.If its edible you did a goof job,but you might like it better if you added that little bit extra that you like.Take looping a menu.If you drag the little arrow at the end it's gonna loop.But say when it loops you want the same button to be highlighted that you were just on.That ways probably won't work.But you can change the post to linkpgnmenu(name of your cell),button=0 and have a pre as sethightbtn=1.Or you can have no post command that loops it but have the same kind looping cell command.These will loop the menu with the same highlighed button,making your cake taste better to you.Theres other ways too.The point is theres a bunch of ways to do the same thing but if it works for you you picked the right one.

If I don't have some of this stuff straight i'd be great if someone would jump in and point it out.

[NooK]

Thanks a lot for the explanation, I understood the SPRMs now.

Can't thank enough. Got enough to play now :D. Now I understand that when you use Setsubpicture function it sets SPRM2 to a value and whenever you go to the PGC that has the right subpicture it'll play it. I thought that every PGC can have 32 subpictures and that if I set subpicture in the title menu it wouldn't set the right sub in the movie PGC, but now I understand.

What I meant in my last post is how is the Resume done. Because when I jump from my menu (Through the Play button) to the Movie PGC it'll start playing from the beggining. If I press the menu button on the remote or Title, and then in the Title menu press the play button again it'll start the movie from the beggining again while in a real DVD it resumes the movie from where you pressed the Title button in the remote.

Anything needed that I can help with let me know.

Best Regards

NooK