Some problems with Vdub + TmpgEnc Help plz

[echooff]

You just have to play with the time setting. Sometimes it can be a real pain in the a@@. Good luk. I am off until sunday. Seen you then

[jojo15]

ok
bye
and thanks for all help
i guess i think how to handle all now

[jojo15]

man,
still troubles,
now at the point i looked the sync is ok but everywhere else it's not, this time i encoded the avi with the delayed wav, created with headac3he because something got wrong with besweet,
and even if it was correct i got a error in nero that the audio was "stream encoded" this is invalid for a svcd
man this really is nuts,
i also looked at nicky's page, but that's only usefull for avi's that are out of sync, mine isn't only the mpg's are out of sync
man it's gonna take a while till this is fixed

[echooff]

now at the point i looked the sync is ok but everywhere else it's not, this time i encoded the avi with the delayed wav, created with headac3he because something got wrong with besweet,
and even if it was correct i got a error in nero that the audio was "stream encoded" this is invalid for a svcd
man this really is nuts,
i also looked at nicky's page, but that's only usefull for avi's that are out of sync, mine isn't only the mpg's are out of sync
man it's gonna take a while till this is fixed

First: what went wrong with BeSweet? What kind of error messages did you get?

Second: what was the frequency setting? 48,000 or 41,000?

Third: when checking the delay setting in vdubmod, if it is not in sync throughout, then no point in encoding. Your output file will be incorrect.

Did you do a frame rate conversion on the audio?

Do you own a audio editing application (i.e. Adobe Audition, Cool Edit, Sonic Foundry ect)?

[jojo15]

First: what went wrong with BeSweet? What kind of error messages did you get?
ow i fixed that but the audio from besweet was 10 times worse,
it was completely out of sync and un-syncable

Second: what was the frequency setting? 48,000 or 41,000?
41,000 like you told me to do

Third: when checking the delay setting in vdubmod, if it is not in sync throughout, then no point in encoding. Your output file will be incorrect.
yeah now i know

Do you own a audio editing application (i.e. Adobe Audition, Cool Edit, Sonic Foundry ect)?
yes i downloaded cool edit

[echooff]

Wow! You answered so quickly it caught me by surprise.

Open cooledit. Load your wav into cooledit. At the bottom right of the screen you will see the running time lenght of your audio. Make a note of it. The entire time including whatever is after the decimal. Load you video m2v file into vdubmod. Move the slider all the way to the right. In the time/frame indicator at the lower middle of the app, you will again see the running time. Even 1 second difference has a hugh effect. You need to determine the time in seconds. So convert the time. As a example 00:05:29:158 will convert to 329.158 seconds.

Go back to Cooledit in the left hand window select the middle tab one of your options in there is time stretching. If the option is not selectable you will have to find a plugin that will load up. I don't have any suggestions on where to find it. Mine came with it. If you can select it, then double click on the option and a little pop-up box opens. Towards the center top is where you input the seconds. Make sure you completely clear what is already there and completely type in your time. Click ok and let it stretch the audio. When it has finished, Click the save as button (top left) and give it a new name.

Load the new audio file into vdubmod and check the sync. Play with the interleaving until you get a good sync and again check it throught the film. Everything should be OK. If not recheck you time stretching and recheck in vdubmod and if necessary restretch.

I have never had this method fail for me. You just have to play with it. Don't get discouraged. Getting used to the different software applications and learning the terminology is the hardest part. Once you have a handle on that it becomes much easier.


One of the mods is probably going to yell at us for making such a long thread instead of going to PM. If this still doesn't work go ahead and PM me and we'll keep trying.

[jojo15]

ehmz which wav file?
and i guess the m2v from the very first mpg?

[echooff]

A wav file from your original avi.
Yes.

[jojo15]

GREAT
now it works, everything is synced
and now??
convert it to 41,000 and with delay with besweet?

[echooff]

Yes. Then go back to my first post and follow that. Let me know how you are doing.

P.S. Do you know what a PM is? Not trying to be insulting. I know english is not your first language. Just curious.

[jojo15]

personal message?
i guess, indeed english isnt my first language, you can say that i dont care

[jojo15]

ow so i need to encode to mp2 and then mux??

[echooff]

Yes, encode and then mux.

[jojo15]

i muxed it, but when i play the mpg the sound is way to late,
what now, seems it aint over yet.

[echooff]

Something wasn't set correctly with besweet. Double check you settings and try again. If it is still out post you besweet log.

[jojo15]

Still doesnt work well so here's the log file

BeSweet v1.5b1 by DSPguru.
--------------------------
Using Shibatch.dll v0.2 by Naoki Shibata & DSPguru (shibatch.sourceforge.net).
Using MP2enc.dll v1.129 (23/5/2002), Engine 1.129 <http://www.cdex.n3.net>.

Logging start : 11/04/03 , 19:44:36.

e:\Avi2Mpeg2\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe -core( -input e:\Films\LOTRTTT\lotrtttcd1.wav -output e:\Films\LOTRTTT\lortttcd1#4.mp2 -logfilea E:\Avi2Mpeg2\Besweet\Lotrtttcd1.log ) -ota( -r 23976 25000 -d 260 -fs 44100 ) -2lame( -m s -b 192 -e )

[00:00:00:000] +------- BeSweet -----
[00:00:00:000] | Input : e:\Films\LOTRTTT\lotrtttcd1.wav
[00:00:00:000] | Output: e:\Films\LOTRTTT\lortttcd1#4.mp2
[00:00:00:000] | Floating-Point Process: Yes
[00:00:00:260] | Source Sample-Rate: 44.1KHz
[00:00:00:260] +-------- FRC --------
[00:00:00:260] | Source Frame-Rate: 23976
[00:00:00:260] | Dest. Frame-Rate: 25000
[00:00:00:260] +------- MP2ENC ------
[00:00:00:260] | Bitrate method : CBR
[00:00:00:260] | MP2 bitrate : 192
[00:00:00:260] | Channels Mode : Stereo
[00:00:00:260] | Error Protection: Yes
[00:00:00:260] +---------------------
BeSweet v1.5b1 by DSPguru.
--------------------------
Using Shibatch.dll v0.2 by Naoki Shibata & DSPguru (shibatch.sourceforge.net).
Using MP2enc.dll v1.129 (23/5/2002), Engine 1.129 <http://www.cdex.n3.net>.

Logging start : 11/04/03 , 19:44:48.

e:\Avi2Mpeg2\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe -core( -input e:\Films\LOTRTTT\lotrtttcd1.wav -output e:\Films\LOTRTTT\lortttcd1#4.mp2 -logfilea E:\Avi2Mpeg2\Besweet\Lotrtttcd1.log ) -ota( -r 23976 25000 -d 260 -fs 44100 ) -2lame( -m s -b 192 -e )

[00:00:00:000] +------- BeSweet -----
[00:00:00:000] | Input : e:\Films\LOTRTTT\lotrtttcd1.wav
[00:00:00:000] | Output: e:\Films\LOTRTTT\lortttcd1#4.mp2
[00:00:00:000] | Floating-Point Process: Yes
[00:00:00:260] | Source Sample-Rate: 44.1KHz
[00:00:00:260] +-------- FRC --------
[00:00:00:260] | Source Frame-Rate: 23976
[00:00:00:260] | Dest. Frame-Rate: 25000
[00:00:00:260] +------- MP2ENC ------
[00:00:00:260] | Bitrate method : CBR
[00:00:00:260] | MP2 bitrate : 192
[00:00:00:260] | Channels Mode : Stereo
[00:00:00:260] | Error Protection: Yes
[00:00:00:260] +---------------------
BeSweet v1.5b1 by DSPguru.
--------------------------
Using Shibatch.dll v0.2 by Naoki Shibata & DSPguru (shibatch.sourceforge.net).
Using MP2enc.dll v1.129 (23/5/2002), Engine 1.129 <http://www.cdex.n3.net>.

Logging start : 11/04/03 , 19:45:14.

e:\Avi2Mpeg2\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe -core( -input e:\Films\LOTRTTT\lotrtttcd1.wav -output e:\Films\LOTRTTT\lortttcd1#4.mp2 -logfilea E:\Avi2Mpeg2\Besweet\Lotrtttcd1.log ) -ota( -r 23976 25000 -d 260 -fs 44100 ) -2lame( -m s -b 192 -e )

[00:00:00:000] +------- BeSweet -----
[00:00:00:000] | Input : e:\Films\LOTRTTT\lotrtttcd1.wav
[00:00:00:000] | Output: e:\Films\LOTRTTT\lortttcd1#4.mp2
[00:00:00:000] | Floating-Point Process: Yes
[00:00:00:260] | Source Sample-Rate: 44.1KHz
[00:00:00:260] +-------- FRC --------
[00:00:00:260] | Source Frame-Rate: 23976
[00:00:00:260] | Dest. Frame-Rate: 25000
[00:00:00:260] +------- MP2ENC ------
[00:00:00:260] | Bitrate method : CBR
[00:00:00:260] | MP2 bitrate : 192
[00:00:00:260] | Channels Mode : Stereo
[00:00:00:260] | Error Protection: Yes
[00:00:00:260] +---------------------
[01:35:39:123] Conversion Completed !
[01:35:39:123] Actual Avg. Bitrate : 184kbps
[00:16:32:000] <-- Transcoding Duration
Logging ends : 11/04/03 , 20:01:46.

[echooff]

Try it without the frame rate conversion option.

[jojo15]

nope, doesnt work

[echooff]

What program are you using to check your muxed file? Try loading the muxed file in VirtualDubMod and see if the problem persist.

[jojo15]

yes, i checked it wit vdubmod, windows media player and power dvd, with everyone it's +/- 5 secs out of sync