white blocking problems

[EZBKOVNStudio]

i'm not sure what exactly the problem is because from what i see i'm using the right field order(because ntsc is easier than pal and doitfast is always right, right?) and such but here is a screen shot of what i've got when i play this in powerdvd or on my standalone player.

http://www.ezbkovnstudio.com/screen.jpg

there are some sort of white blocking that show up and i'm really not sure what's up. it happens a whole lot with my re-encoded file even though there are no signs of it on the original dvd. i'm encoding it at 6683k at 3 passes. i haven't done a pulldown on it, is that what i would have needed to do?

please enlighten me with the solution and if you need more stuff like ifo's or logs or whatever, i'll put those up for view.

[HyperYagami]

your deinterlace filter is screwing it up. dump it.

and read this -> http://www.doom9.org/ivtc-tut.htm

you have a very painful road ahead of you...

[EZBKOVNStudio]

the one from dvd2avi? where is this filter and also, i thought doitfast4u was supposed to set these settings 99% correct of the time?

[HyperYagami]

Originally posted by EZBKOVNStudio
the one from dvd2avi? where is this filter and also, i thought doitfast4u was supposed to set these settings 99% correct of the time?

in your avisynth script. doitfast4u was correct, just a lot of people don't like deinterlaced result.

[EZBKOVNStudio]

so i should find that code in the script and then deinterlace? or should i just run the d2v script through tmpgenc and ivtc?

[HyperYagami]

so i should find that code in the script and then deinterlace?

you ARE deinterlacing, and you DON'T want that.

or should i just run the d2v script through tmpgenc and ivtc?

what are you trying to do there?

read that ITVC guide and play with the AVS script and open the AVS script under VirtualDub and see the result frame-by-frame...that's the only way to understand what it's doing and trust me the more question you ask here the more confused you'll get, since it's quite hard to explain all that by words only.

[Eyes`Only]

This issue will be corrected in the next beta. I think your video is telecine, and DIF4U is using a fielddeinterlace filter when it should be using telecide() and decimate (cycle=5).

[EZBKOVNStudio]

actually eyes, i was reading the guide that hyperyagami posted and what i did was when i was using doitfast4u!, i changed the "detect ntsc settings automatically" to off and set it on IVTC since reading the guide told me that most anime should be IVTC'd instead of ForceFilmed or deinterlaced.

trying this, i was able to execute 4 backups that i've been really proud of. maybe on the next update you could somehow set the "detect ntsc settings automatically" to automatically set it to IVTC if it detects anime. i don't know how you'd do that, but you could give it a shot.

thank you to hyperyagami for posting that guide, i wouldn't have figured it out if he didn't. also thank you for making your doitfast4u! edit the dvd2avi settings because damn it would have been hell for me to go back and edit those settings and set them to ivtc and redo the d2v files as well as the avs files.

eyes, i'm still having that problem though, that one you offered me advice to. it seems all anime dvds from bandai are giving me trouble, if you could, pick one up and see what is up. maybe they use something else for formatting but i get that vobu size error every time i try to backup scryed dvd1, scryed dvd2, witch hunter robin dvd1, etc. all the new bandai anime dvds.

[Eyes`Only]

anime is usually hybrid material, in which case, 'automatically detect' would have used the IVTC script.

[Eyes`Only]

as for your vobu error. Someone else had the same issue, and when they manually authored it, it worked just fine. Seems it may be a problem with RA, in which case, I can't help!

Try a manual author using scenarist, see if you can compile from that.

[EZBKOVNStudio]

Originally posted by Eyes`Only
anime is usually hybrid material, in which case, 'automatically detect' would have used the IVTC script.

actually... out of 7 anime dvds i've tried to reauthor, 3 of them(scryed dvd1 and 2, and witch hunter robin dvd1... which i get the vobu size error in so i can't reauthor)i can't work at all and the other 4 dvds were originally "automatically detect"(gto dvd1 and 5, dna2 dvd1, and read or die)... and when i tested them in power dvd and burnt them to dvdrw, they had the white blocking problems that i had originally posted about.

so i'm guessing those weren't detected by your auto settings. just to let you know. btw, all the dvds above are r1 ntsc 4:3 res.

[EZBKOVNStudio]

btw, how would i go about authoring manually in scenarist?

[ShaneZ]

Originally posted by EZBKOVNStudio
btw, how would i go about authoring manually in scenarist?

Basically, you have to do everything RA would normally do for you. This is a good thing though because it gets you working with one of your major tools. The more proficient you are with it the less these little hickups will be a problem.

The simplified explanation:

Load your audio and video assets into the data editor in scenarist, create tracks of audio/video for each pgc from your imported assets, layout everything in your scenario editor to match the dvd structure.

You will need to export your scenario to a script and process it with ScenChap to get the chapter points. Restart Scenarist, load your new script and watch it do its business. Unless you have some tweaking to do you should only have to mux the DVD and WALA!

A working DVD video.

Hope that helped you out.

[EZBKOVNStudio]

god... i'll beg aquabubble to get a new version out first. ;) i dunno if i can do that manually, dunno where to start.

[Eyes`Only]

Doom9's got many guides on it :) Trust me, without being willing to learn the methods, your support will diminish. We don't cater to cowards.

As for anime, as far back as I remember people have had problems with anime. A simple script such as the ones that are provided by DoItFast4U! usually will not do them properly. Do a forum search for anime and you'll find people have spent weeks testing AVS scripts to determine the best one for each movie. As a question though, were they detected as ivtc or telecine?

Shane: you forgot subs! hehe

[EZBKOVNStudio]

i'm glad to see that eyes` has a sense of humor. ;)

or at least i hope he was joking around... O_O

anyway, eyes`, what do you suggest i should do about this error if i was to edit my scenarist script file in a txt app. here is the original thread of that error i complained about.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=61997

i'll probably be looking up a bunch on the manual authoring but yeah i'd love to still have support. maybe with enough of my crap on this forum, i could be a regular. :)

btw, the anime, since it was solved by manually choosing ivtc, i'm guessing it automatically chose telecine. i'm still gonna learn this stuff with anime, i love that stuff, gotta practice on stuff you love, right?

[Eyes`Only]

I don't have any idea what you could do with it in a text editor, the only way I know to test for sure would be to do it from scratch using Scenarist (takes about 10 minutes once you know how to do it).

Telecine and IVTC scripts will be different in the next beta. Another user has convinced me that some different scripts would be better (ie. using what is currently the ivtc script for telecine), and I'm going to attempt to use those and see how you guys like 'em.

[EZBKOVNStudio]

thanks eyes, btw. awesome proggy. i love it. oh yeah i was wondering if you could ad somethings that i think are in the command line version of your program but arn't on the gui.

when using numenu4u i found that when it sends me to doitfast4u, it does something like add a setting called "nomenu" or something to tell doitfast to take that out of it's calculations, would you mind adding that to a pulldown menu so i can check that? i've had to close doitfast4u a couple of times right after using numenu4u and i had to run numenu4u all over again because i noticed that "nomenu" setting wasn't on when i reopened doitfast4u, and there also was nothing i could checkmark to make that setting happen. mostly i had to close it when i was upgrading your program to the newest beta... then got pissed cause i had to numenu again.

also, is there a way you can make a menu to change the max dvd size from 4,700,000,000 to something bigger? i tried to just check off the extras in my latest trial-error run and right before it usually goes off to reauthorist and it had a red circle x error that said something about my dvd would be over the max dvd calculations. then it stayed in that and i had to open reauthorist manually, which defeats the point of the setting to have it open automatically.

just some suggestions eyes`. awesome awesome proggy.

[Eyes`Only]

First suggestion I'm fine with. As for the second, well I guess I can make it just continue on after displaying that warning instead of halting...

I sure hope you're a generous donator! :P

[EZBKOVNStudio]

ya man, i'll donate, just gotta get me a job. haven't had one for like months now. unless you want some r1 and r2 anime dvds, i'll mail you some that i don't watch anymore. more stuff to mess with cause i can't set up an ebay account to sell them.