Quick question: Any way to remove things and keep menu?

[DjonDjoe]

Is there any way I can remove extra material on a copy of a DVD and still maintain the menu and structure?
Or is this what we're all eagerly waiting for MackemX's new app to do?

[MackemX]

Hi, welcome to to the forums :)

this tool should be able to give you the simple choice of removing all the crap without upsetting the structure

the only thing is that it has to still be finalised and it's so frustrating :(

cheers

[DjonDjoe]

Thank you :)
Ok, so an app that can do this is still non-existant?
Well all eyes on you then my good man :) Cant wait, because that would be so damn sweet! It's such an annoyance that if you want to keep the menu, you also have to keep all the crap you don't want, and you hence have to give up on image quality to cram it all on the DVD.

[MackemX]

Originally posted by DjonDjoe
Thank you :)
Ok, so an app that can do this is still non-existant?
:),


:EDIT: due to a misunderstanding this post is not quite correct

"none were available previous to this tool but this tool does exist but it's not publicly available just yet but quite a few have it already ;)"


:CORRECTION: Menuedit allows the stripping of unwanted content

[Dimad]

Tool you need does exist. And is called MenuEdit (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?threadid=57186). :)


none were available previous to this tool


@MackemX
marketing is a nice thing, but not to the extend where it bends the truth !

[MackemX]

my apologies, I'm just looking at a newbies point of view

p.s. a reply to the email sometime would be nice ;)

[Chowskie]

IFOEdit too will allow u to do that. MackemX's still-waiting-to-be-released new tool will probably simplified the whole process "exponentially".

Note: I don't have a copy of the tool, so don't sue me if my remark isn't as u hope it will be when the tool is released. :)

[influenza]

What do you mena by tool? A all in one thing that wil ltake care of things for you in a few clicks? Or just a method to do this.

Because there are multiple ways to do this and different tools to be doing what you want.

Don't want to get into a discussion here what's good and not. But search some guides on doom9 do some reading and you'll get pretty far.

[MackemX]

Originally posted by influenza
What do you mena by tool? A all in one thing that wil ltake care of things for you in a few clicks? Or just a method to do this.

Because there are multiple ways to do this and different tools to be doing what you want.

Don't want to get into a discussion here what's good and not. But search some guides on doom9 do some reading and you'll get pretty far. its an intermediary tool that requires 5 to 10 minutes user input to rip/strip/rebuild a DVD. I know there are guides here, there and everywhere, I written quite a few :) but not everyone is capable of doing it manually and some things are tough even for the Ifoedit Pro's

this tool offers DVD stripping capabilities to anyone in the simplest of forms (KEEP or REMOVE) without even having any knowledge of a DVD structure or IFO's. Some of the Pro's will find this tool a timesaver on occasions

I'm just trying to make this tool perform as if I was doing the stripping myself manually. It may be a massive flop fo everyone but judging from feedback etc it seems to be welcomed. At the end of the day I like it as it saves me hours messing around within the depths of a DVD hunting stuff out. I just hope its as much a help to others as it to to me and I can develop it further

[influenza]

Every tool that saves time and does what it should it ofcourse usefull. I'll certainly give it a try when it's finished, just to see what it's capable of.

I just don't want anybody to get the impression that those tools are the only way to do things and that as long as they are not ready yet (like yours) there's no other way to do things.

I totally agree that not everybody is capable but we should at least give them a chance to try ;)

good luck with your development, let me know when it's available for some testing.

[MackemX]

Originally posted by influenza
[B]I just don't want anybody to get the impression that those tools are the only way to do things and that as long as they are not ready yet (like yours) there's no other way to do things./B] It is ready and has alraedy been tested by quite a few people and is proving to be quite popular, it just ain't released that's all for reasons beyond our control :(

I hope I ain't giving the impression that this is the only tool to strip a DVD. As far as a newbie is concerned, he can use it straight out of the box without any previous DVD knowledge and not many tools offer that. I know people should really try to do stuff themselves but maybe they just don't have the time to commit to learning and I wouldn't expect my Grandmother, even if she did have the time, to learn all about DVD structures etc to backup a DVD :)

[influenza]

I wouldn't expect my Grandmother, even if she did have the time, to learn all about DVD structures etc to backup a DVD

I wouldn't even expect my grandmother to know what a DVD is :D

Are we talking freeware here BTW? I guess we do, since you're kinda advertising it here.

[MackemX]

nah, it ain't freeware, but it was going to be freeware asking for donations initially so I guess I'm just spreading the word now. I'm sure if I go over the line I will have my hand slapped by Doom9 and I apologise if I already have or do. I'm just exicted about it that's all

maybe I have already have overstepped the mark, I just don't know, but seeing as people are interested in this tool I'd rather talk about it if I am allowed as long as I do not say 'YOU MUST BUY THIS TOOL'

there is a thread about this tool somewhere on this forum that started last growing last week and that has most of the details in it that should clarify a few things

I'm hoping word of mouth will be my best advertisement in the end anyway as most betatesters are more than happy with their results and I cannot stop them posting. I may be shot down as it could be a complete failure but I know most guys on this forum want it to succeed as we are all after the same thing which is a working backup exactly the way we want it and I'm trying my hardest to offer this to all users in the simplest of forms ;)

[Doom9]

to answer the original question, you can easily remove playback items using the Big3 or Recode. Both keep the DVD structure intact, and replace the stuff you don't want with a simple "this item has been removed" screen, so you don't have to deactivate buttons that go into nirvana and could cause havoc.
The playback item removal in those two programs is just as easy (and I didn't have to pay for those tools).

@MackemX: Pointing to a tool that isn't available is not the best way of helping someone when there are available alternatives around.

[MackemX]

Originally posted by Doom9
@MackemX: Pointing to a tool that isn't available is not the best way of helping someone when there are available alternatives around. I see the point so from now it's zip from me as I think more than enough has been said ;)

a famous quote by Arnie springs to mind :D

I'll be Back

[dnl479]

Check out my new shareware (not freeware) backup tool at http://www.dvd-replica.com/

This tool allows you to back up a VTS with *menu only* and keep everything intact. Clicking a chapter item on the menu will behave as if the chapter play is complete and the navigation continues as designed in the original DVD structure. If you need only this feature, the demo version will do what you want so it is kind of free if you use NTSC format.

Here is the guide on how to keep only the menu and get rid of the rest.
http://www.dvd-replica.com/userguide7.php3

Some movie DVDs try to circumvent modifications by moving certain VTS navigations to the VMG. In this case, you might want to use the "Keep VMG" option of DVD-Replica.

My app is certainly not a one-click solution, but I hope it is simple enough for anyone to use.

Currently NTSC version only. I plan to add PAL support soon for European markets.

[mrbass]

Originally posted by dnl479
This tool allows you to back up a VTS with *menu only* and keep everything intact. Clicking a chapter item on the menu will behave as if the chapter play is complete and the navigation continues as designed in the original DVD structure. If you need only this feature, the demo version will do what you want so it is kind of free if you use NTSC format.
[/B]

"The unregistered version includes all features except that the last 2 chapters per DVD title will not be backed up and the previewing
feature is limited to 20 titles only."

Kinda free but won't the ending be missing last two chapters?

[int 21h]

Uhm, this product violates the GPL, its using DVD2AVI sourcecode in the product's mview.exe which allows the user to preview the movie before encoding.

When I first looked at this, it definitely looked like a familiar interface, so then I decided to nose around a little bit in the executable source itself and found the following strings:


A b o u t D V D 2 A V I

F i e l d O p e r a t i o n
:€N o n e €F o r c e d F I L M
€ ;€S w a p F i e l d O r d e r


There are many, many more strings which give this away, they even list the SAME shortcut keys as DVD2AVI. Anyone who is curious can see for themselves, beginning at offset 0002ADA0H.

I would recommend avoiding this product until the author sorts out the offending code issues and properly acknowledges the original author of his preview facilities (Jackei) and also releases his changes (if any) of the sourcecode.

[mrbass]

good detective work int 21h

[Ewoud]

DjonDjoe,

Many well known commercial applications also can remove items/ chapters from titlesets or delete complete sets while keeping the menu. Only DVD-Stripper is going to be more detailed in removing and shows all existing cell in sets and chapters, so you can remove warnings and logos merged into titlesets. The program Menu-edit is specialized in removing buttons from a menu so you will not even see a button from wich the content will be removed.

If u want a menu with the either the film or the extras you can try:

-InstantCopy 8
-Intervideo DVD copy platinum Full Demo (http://a1394.g.akamai.net/7/1394/3235/v011/webdownload2.intervideo.com/intervideodvdcopy/release/Enu/IVIDVDCopy.exe)
-DVD X Copy 1.5.2

If u select items that have been removed it will cause a black screen either switching automatically back to last menu or you have to put on the root menu manually by remoot on both standalone and software player.

greetings, E.