the big 3 produced smaller file (1gb)

[kika22]

hello,
i used the big 3 to backup my matrix dvd. i only selected pgc1 from vts2 as it seemed to be enough for the main movie without extras. everything worked okay- the only problem was, that the resulting size of the video ts was 3,4GB - so it wasted 1 gb - what did i do wrong?

another question: is it possible to backup only the main movie without menus using the big 3?

[influenza]

Although the big three method is meant to create full backups of your dvds it can be used to make a movie only backup (or at least make this easier).

Why you ended up with a 1 GB smaller file? I don't know what bitrate calculation u used? If you use the ccedata.txt from dif4u and have the setting create video_ts using unused vtses on then the bitrate calc will also include things you didn't check and leave less bitrate for your main movie. Resulting in a smaller file.

If you want to use it for movie only you can have RA create a script for u with only the main movie. You just have to make sure you set the bitrate right.

Also read some movie only guides you can find on doom9

[HyperYagami]

Originally posted by kika22
that the resulting size of the video ts was 3,4GB

before or after you merge with the video_ts folder doitfast4u created?

[kika22]

thanks for the reply,
i used the big 3 method as it is so easy. i have the create video_ts using unused vtses on. can there occur any problems if i switch it off? this seems to be my problem - i also used this method as i get better results than from dvd-shrink!

[HyperYagami]

big3 is NOT for creating a movie-only rip (it can be done, but not directly). those are the menus and such from the original dvd, and seem like they take almost 1gb in your case. if you're doing a movie-only rip then you're pretty much have to do it the hard way (manually), or have dvdshrink create a movie-only zero-compression rip and big3 that, or use dvd2dvdr or dvd2svcd or something like that (I don't remember which one) to do that for you.

[kika22]

you mean, i should process it with dvd shrink, uncompressed, and then burn an image with nero, load the image in deamon tools and then process this using the big 3? sounds easy compared to the "movie only" guides - does it work as described?

[HyperYagami]

yes, there are so many ways to do that, and it's just one suggestion.

[influenza]

You can use dif4u to prepare (demux) your assets and RA to create a scenarist script for it. It will take some manual work though (calculating bitrate for encoding).

But like already said it's not meant for this in the first place. Try a full dvd backup, quite rewarding I must say!

And there are other and probably easier methods to do what you want (as you alreayd got a suggestion for that)

[Svennis]

My projects always ended up about 1 meg smaller.

This was due to the CCE version I used (2.50.01.00) which seemed to ignore my settings.

Upgraded to 2.66.01.07 and now my projects fit perfectly :D

[stanjr]

I have recently come across this problem too, although, I am doing a full backup.

The disc is The Cure Trilogy Disc 1, R1 (I haven't gotten to Disc 2 yet). There are only 3 VTSes:

VTS1 = 447 MB
VTS2 = 6982 MB (flagged as MAIN)
VTS3 = 280 MB

I toggled VTS1 and VTS3 from EXTRA to be MAIN and then let DoItFast4U proceed, opening BatchCCEWS for me, and then encoding began. Recompiled everything in the end but noticed that I was about 1 gig short. Very very strange. The bitrates I got for encoding were:

VTS1 avg = 2752
VTS2 avg = 2539
VTS3 avg = 2752

I thought maybe it could be a bug in toggling really small extras to mains, so I tried again without toggling extras to mains with the extras bitrate set at 2500 (although I didn't go through the re-encoding). The bitrates I got for encoding were:

VTS1 avg = 2500
VTS2 avg = 2546
VTS3 avg = 2500

I didn't reencode because these bitrates were close to what I had to begin with and I figured I was going to still come out about 1 gig short.

Does anyone have any ideas? The backup as it is right now is fine, actually; however, it would be nice to not have wasted space, and get even better quality on the disc.