Vague usage & temporal cleaning [updated]

[Piper]

Perhaps sh0dan can handle this one. :)

After reading the many wonderous benefits of vaguedenoiser scattered about this forum, I set out to compare it with peach on a very noisy VHS (10 yrs old, SLP mode) source containing Star Trek Animated Series.

After some cropping & letterboxing, I'm able to get decomb to pattern match correctly and the output is nice and smooth with the following denoising routine:

GuavaComb(Mode="NTSC",Recall=75,MaxVariation=15,Activation=90) # Tune down MaxVariation to avoid artifacts
PeachSmoother(NoiseReduction=45,Stability=15,Spatial=20,NoiseLevel=3.129,Baseline=2.571) # Use Readout=true to determine NoiseLevel & Baseline levels
FluxSmooth(10,-1)

This cleans it up considerably and Peach & Flux do a better job together than they do on their own, but I'd rather not mix filters of similar abilities if possible. For example, if I increase FluxSmooth to anything past (10,-1) it looks great on static scenes but creates terrible posterization which is perhaps due to Peach already doing some Temporal cleaning, which from looking at the docs, can't be explicitly set.

I would like to replace Peach with VagueDenoiser and I'm wondering if anyone has already done some testing with the various temporal/spatial cleaners in conjunction with VagueDenoiser, and if so what would your recommendation be?

[Mug Funky]

IIRC vaguedenoiser isn't a temporal cleaner, so it'll behave differently from peach.

i tend to use them both together, actually.

man, 10 year old VHS? that's why i wish there was some kind of line-crawl cleaner out there. you'd get so much more useful spatial res out of a tape if there was something to line up naff scanlines.

i haven't used fluxsmooth before, but it's possible it will handle the temporal part nicely if vague handles the spatial part.

(i wish photoshop had vaguedenoiser!)

[d'Oursse]

i've made some comparison tests between peach, golddust and the combo (deen+c3d) for very noisy vhs rip, and golddust is the one which really increases the quality. I have tested vaguedenoiser a long time ago but I was not satisfied by the results. I plan to give it a try (v 0.28).