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dimitrius
1st October 2003, 12:55
right, a week ago or so I bought a new motherboard (GA-7NNXP - gigabyte). I fully realise that most likely I shot my self in the foot by buying a gigabyte motherboard but if you look at it's list of features you can see why I decided to risk it. I've put my systme together and the first thing that happens is that Windows XP Pro SP1 would not start. If I used safe mode (where it displays the drivers that it loads), windows would crash when it gets to an MPEG.sys which was located in c:\windows\system32\drivers. What I did then is moved that file manually using the recovery console to a temp directory. Then windows would hang when it gets to an MUP.sys. I got fed up with this and decided to reinstall windows.

Now comes the weirdness. I can use both my pioneer cd-writer and my generic dvd-rom to read cds, cd-rs and dvds - all with data format. But I could not use normal dvd video discs. what happens is - after insertion of the dvd I get the standard autoplay thingy of XP that asks you to select what to play the dvd with (at this point I don't have any PowerDVD or anything else installed), I select play with windows media player (just to test) and it tells me unknown or undefined error. I can view the files on the dvd (vobs and ifos) in explorer. I can open non-encypted vobs with vdub-mod. I can't open enrypted ones. I checked dvd region of the drive, player, and the dvd - they are all R2.

Next I install powerdvd. Now I can play the dvd in powerdvd and other players but DVD Decrypter and Smart Ripper cannot read the dvd. dvd decrypter says drive not ready, smart ripper says I need to open the movie in a dvd player (which I did). Another thing I just noticed is I can't write using the cd-writer neither with nero or anything else. I checked all the hardware connections, I checked driver settings and everything else I can think of, I reinstalled windows 3 times now. I am using latest drivers and latest bios (and I tried with older drivers and bios as well). My only guess is that windows xp has somekind of dvd decoder (note that MPEG.sys driver problem above) or somekind of ide bus mastering system that i am missing. The only reason i wnat to fix this is to start ripping dvds again. Right now I can only play dvds in powerdvd. I am also guessing that the same thing is hampering my cd-writer.

motherboard - ga-7nnxp
cpu - athlon xp 3000+
ram - ddr333 256MB
not overclocked
latest versions of powerdvd, nero, drivers and bios
Windos XP Pro SP1

sory about the long-winded post but I am getting kind of desparate (of course I searched this and other BBs)

-Dima

LIGHTNING UK!
1st October 2003, 19:39
DVD Decrypter shows 'device not ready' in the status bar?

Ok, so go into the settings and on the I/O page, enable debug mode.

You should then see lots of entries in the log about...

CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 - SENSE: XX XX

I need to know what the XX XX is.

mickey Jr.
2nd October 2003, 03:51
try rt clicking on my computer, hit properties and go into device manager, click on the ide channels, mainly the nvidia nforce MCP2 IDE controller,click properties,,, and choose update driver and after having first unzipped and cancelled the automatic install of the unified driver package from nvidia, go to the NVIDIA folder it creates in the c drive and point the installer for the ide drivers there and install them manually, the auto sometimes screws up the install.. I had this problem with a chaintech mobo I have, I could add to a CD-RW, but not write a CD-R,, kept getting ASPI errors, maybe this is happening to you??? or causing the problems, I saw before I manually installed the IDE drivers the primary and secondarys were listed as VDEVAX or something like that and were considered SCSI primary and SCSI secondary...

hope this helps, i will check back and see if it helps ya out...



mickey Jr.....

drebel
2nd October 2003, 13:46
Same problem here .
Movie: "Cotton Club"
Debug mode: sense 3A 00
Os : Win2ksp4
All ASPI drvs included,not worked and of course not windows SPTI.
Windows explorer shows no device after dvd insertion.DVDecrypter says "device not ready"
Same thing happened with dvd "YES minister".DVD is playing fine in standalone players, but my PC isn't recognising it.
I'm ripping movies for more than 3 years ,so I know my PC very well.Older titles are playing fine.It's not me .Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

regards,
george

dimitrius
2nd October 2003, 14:11
LIGHTNING UK!:
don't worry it's not a problem with dvd decrypter, it's obvious that something is wrong with SPTI. Em (where's the blushing smiley), may I take this opportunity to thank you for one of the best programms I have seen, it's a very elegant solution to a large range of problems. Nice work!


Basically it seems to be fixed now, what I did is I went to msdn and downloaded every single little update for windows xp ever released. SPTI seems to have started working after the first 10 or so updates, so I guess it's just a "feature" of windows :devil: . Amongst these 10 or so updates there was a Q320174 - "This update addresses several CD burning issues that are discussed in Microsoft Knowledge Base Article 320174" and a Q329623 - "Issue with DirectX May Cause DVD Players To Not Work". I am guessing one of these kickstarted SPTI. Now I can decode dvd's without aspi and properly use the cd-writer. Then I installed nero, so I guess if SPTI snuffs it again at least I should be able to fall back on nero's aspi.

mickey Jr.:
I actually tried that, and in many different combinations. Even tried to experiment if VIA drivers would work on nforce2 (don't laugh!).
I didn't have anything like VDEVAX and the IDE channels seemed to be setup properly (harddrive was at udma100, dvd-rom at udma33, cd-writer at pio)


edit: by the way those updates were not found by windows update

mickey Jr.
2nd October 2003, 15:28
cool, glad to see you got it fixed, mine was a pain in de'a$$. Just figured I'd try and help :)



mickey Jr.....

drebel
2nd October 2003, 16:20
And another sense value in debug mode : 04 01 .Is it a hardware prob ?

LIGHTNING UK!
2nd October 2003, 17:25
3A 00 means 'medium not present'
04 01 means 'Logical Unit is in process of becoming ready'

keep waiting... the ones after those are the important ones.

drebel
2nd October 2003, 22:02
That's my log file ,in case you can find something interesting



I 23:59:53 Initialising SPTI...
I 23:59:53 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 23:59:53 [0:0:0] (E:) - CDB: 12 00 00 00 38 00
I 23:59:53 [0:0:0] PIONEER DVD-ROM DVD-116 1.22 (E:) - CDB: 5A 00 2A 00 00 00 00 00 FC 00
I 23:59:53 [0:0:0] PIONEER DVD-ROM DVD-116 1.22 (E:) - CDB: 46 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 08 00
I 23:59:53 [0:0:0] PIONEER DVD-ROM DVD-116 1.22 (E:) - CDB: 46 02 00 01 00 00 00 00 10 00
I 23:59:53 [0:0:0] PIONEER DVD-ROM DVD-116 1.22 (E:) - CDB: 46 02 00 1D 00 00 00 00 10 00
I 23:59:53 [0:0:0] PIONEER DVD-ROM DVD-116 1.22 (E:) - CDB: 46 02 00 1E 00 00 00 00 10 00
I 23:59:53 [0:0:0] PIONEER DVD-ROM DVD-116 1.22 (E:) - CDB: 46 02 00 1F 00 00 00 00 10 00
I 23:59:53 [0:0:0] PIONEER DVD-ROM DVD-116 1.22 (E:) - CDB: 46 02 00 27 00 00 00 00 10 00
I 23:59:53 [0:0:0] PIONEER DVD-ROM DVD-116 1.22 (E:) - CDB: 46 02 00 2A 00 00 00 00 10 00
I 23:59:53 [0:0:0] PIONEER DVD-ROM DVD-116 1.22 (E:) - CDB: 46 02 00 2B 00 00 00 00 10 00
I 23:59:53 [0:0:0] PIONEER DVD-ROM DVD-116 1.22 (E:) - CDB: 46 02 00 2D 00 00 00 00 10 00
I 23:59:53 [0:0:0] PIONEER DVD-ROM DVD-116 1.22 (E:) - CDB: 46 02 00 2E 00 00 00 00 10 00
I 23:59:53 [0:0:0] PIONEER DVD-ROM DVD-116 1.22 (E:) - CDB: 46 02 00 2F 00 00 00 00 10 00
E 23:59:53 [0:0:0] PIONEER DVD-ROM DVD-116 1.22 (E:) - CDB: A4 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 08 08 00 - SENSE: 3A 00
I 23:59:53 Found 1 DVD-ROM!
E 23:59:53 [0:0:0] PIONEER DVD-ROM DVD-116 1.22 (E:) - CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 - SENSE: 3A 00
E 23:59:53 [0:0:0] PIONEER DVD-ROM DVD-116 1.22 (E:) - CDB: 00 00 00 00 00 00 - SENSE: 3A 00


Is there somthing like " CPRM dvd-rw i dvd+r i dvd+rw protection" that's not yet cracked?Might it be the case?

LIGHTNING UK!
3rd October 2003, 01:43
All that log tells me is that your drive just doesnt think there is a disc in it.

drebel
6th October 2003, 18:42
Problem solved.
I had to rip my DVD player apart and give it a good clean up.Four years of ripping are leaving a lot of unwanted stuff on a player , I 'm afraid.

Thx for the support ,L/UK !