Avisynth and Premiere Pro

[Susan]

I can't use either avisynth or other frameservers in Premiere Pro.
Did anyone succeed?
Thanks for your attention.

[Wilbert]

Welcome to our forum!

Just install ffvfw light (http://cultact-server.novi.dk/kpo/avisynth/avs_cvs.html). It includes an avi wrapper called makeAVIS. Open your script in makeAVIS and make a avi file (forcing the color format in RGB32). Open this in premiere ....

See also: http://www.avisynth.org/index.php?page=Section+2%3A+AviSynth+and+frameserving#q2.3

[Guest]

I tried to use ffvfw lite as suggested. It used a fourCC of "AVIS" and VirtualDub barfed on that, trying to use my Panasonic DV codec. What have I done wrong?

[Susan]

Thanks for fast reply, but I explained bad myself.
With Premiere 6.5 I export the timeline through Avisynth to compress with TmpgEnc.
But this method doesn't work with Premiere Pro.
I tested also Videoserver and Pluginpac with the same bad result.
I'd need a frameserver for exporting from Premiere Pro to TmpgEnc.
Thanks again.

[Wilbert]

Maybe you can try to convince the people of Pluginpac to support Premiere Pro :D

@Neuron2,

I don't know. It's a while ago I played with it. Did you check force to RGB32? Does it happen with all avi files?

[DDogg]

I'll ask Satish (re - pluginpac) if it is supported or what the plan is and report back to this thread. I have not kept up with his stuff it lately.

[satishkumr]

Yes in a short while PluginPac frameserver will be available for Premiere Pro as well.

[Guest]

Originally posted by Wilbert
I don't know. It's a while ago I played with it. Did you check force to RGB32? Does it happen with all avi files? Yes, I tried forcing, and yes, all AVIs. The AVI it makes has a fourcc of "AVIS", so presumably there is supposed to be a codec that supports that. I just installed the ffvfw lite as linked on sh0dan's page. There are no instructions about installation and usage (shameful)!!!

I'd like to get it working, because if it does, I can avoid having to fix up VFAPI for DVD2AVIdg (I'll just recommend this for frameserving).

[DDogg]

I'd like to get it working, because if it does, I can avoid having to fix up VFAPI for DVD2AVIdg (I'll just recommend this for frameserving). Then I hope you don't get it working. Vfapi is still the backbone of frameserving for many and in some cases still the *only* thing that will work. Heh, no pressure Donald..:D (it will load vdub and tmpg project files when readavs is registered.)

Edit: Here would be an example of VFAPI being the only workable solution (AFAIK) http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=47483

Another situation where makeavis would not work is where you load the AVS into tmpg, save a TPR and then load that into vfapi and serve.

[Wilbert]

Yes, I tried forcing, and yes, all AVIs. The AVI it makes has a fourcc of "AVIS", so presumably there is supposed to be a codec that supports that.

ffvfw.dll

If the installation was correct, the following should be in your registery:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Drivers32]
"vidc.avis"="ffvfw.dll"

[Guest]

@Wilbert

Thank you, I will check that when I get home.

@DDogg

Either you or I am confused. :)

I am talking about the VFAPI support in DVD2AVI. That allows for a D2V file to be served as an AVI. I am not arguing against VFAPI in general, just suggesting that to serve D2V files as AVIs, you can use ffvfw (via Avisynth and mpeg2dec3) instead. So why are you giving me these examples that have nothing to do with D2Vs and DVD2AVI?

This approach would avoid having to maintain two versions of the decoding code (one in mpeg2dec3.dll and one in DVD2AVI.vfp).

[DDogg]

Of course you are right, for some reason I thought that whole system was tied together somehow. I just had a senior moment :)

I am taking a guess that using mpeg2dec3 would be faster also. Only thing I wonder about is dependency on ffvfw as Sh0dan had to take ffvfw out of the avisynth package because some folks were having problems and crashes and I think a lot of people will not install it for various reasons. Anyway, I am sure whatever you decide will be right and sorry for any confusion.

[Guest]

DDogg, it may all be moot, as I can't make it work at all. I added the entry Wilbert mentioned but when I open the fake AVI in Vdub, it errors out with error=-100. It plays in Media Player 6.4 but crashes on exit.

[DDogg]

Hmmm, I checked on my machine and it functions well, but it reminded me of our discussions with Milan. I'm pretty sure the registry entry Wilbert mentioned was a workaround for the first alpha versions and is not used anymore. I checked my reg on a machine with a fairly new installation of XP and ffvfw and came up with quite a few entries scattered about but this was the drivers32 section and they were installed by ffvfw light. I have not done any hand editing. Anyway, maybe just do a new install?

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Drivers32]
"vidc.fvfw"="ffvfw.dll"
"msacm.avis"="ffvfw.dll"

Yeah, here is the thread. See about 6 down from top: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=49964&highlight=ffvfw

vidc.avis is nowhere in my registry on this new installation.

[Guest]

That's what I had initially and it didn't work. Are you using the ffvfw lite from sh0dan's download page?

[DDogg]

yup. Just let me know if I can search my machine, registry, whatever to help.