bitrates keep resetting when start d2s using d2sroba plugin

[homerjay]

im not quite sure when this started happening but had an avi encode go horribly oversized (over 100mb)last night after completing a perfect dvd encode the night before :confused:

today when trying to find out why i have noticed that every time i start d2sroba it keeps restoring the default times and number of cds on the bitrate tab

if i change then and start d2s manually the change is held but as soon as i start d2sroba again its back to the defaults

ive looked thru and changed all the ini files to no avail - i am sure i am having a premature 'senior moment' please someone what am i forgetting to do to hold the changes

thanks

hj

[DDogg]

Maybe you could just delete the ini in the d2sroba folder and make sure ALL the d2sroba files are deleted in your working dir. I had something like this happen a long time ago. I figured it was just operator error and started over. I never did find out what caused it.

[homerjay]

thanks ddogg gave that a go but didnt resolve it hell i even deleted the whole folder and reinstalled d2sroba :rolleyes: :p
will keep playing then :confused:

[Holomatrix]

Happens to me to. Weird

[DDogg]

What version are you guys seeing this with? Beta 3?

[Holomatrix]

DVD2SVCD 1.2.1 build 2 and D2SRoba 2.6.0 beta3

[r6d2]

Originally posted by homerjay
today when trying to find out why i have noticed that every time i start d2sroba it keeps restoring the default times and number of cds on the bitrate tab

if i change then and start d2s manually the change is held but as soon as i start d2sroba again its back to the defaults

@homerjay,

You mean DVD2SVCD's defaults, with 740 and 800 CD sizes? That is indeed weird.

What D2Sroba does is fill in the values with multiples of 46 minutes. Are you sure it is not this what happens?

[DDogg]

homerjay, did you remember to set 1pass vbr in the d2s encoder tab? It will screw the pooch if you don't. I have never really understood this as the plugin knows you are doing OPV, but if you don't have opv checked IN d2s strange things happen.

[homerjay]

@holo - thanks i thought i was going mad

@r6d2 - time settings start and 92 and are in increments of 46 yes but the cd's go up 1 - 6 & strangely all cd sizes are correct at 800

@ddog - definately set to One Pass VBR but everytime restart it it reticks the create vaf file

thought i would last night set everything correctly and retry a dvd conversion but on looking at results its oversized again by +100mb and on closing and restarting using d2sroba all of the above has been reset :confused:

[tylo]

Some explainations: The time intervals and the number of CDs are always set by D2SRoBa to ensure that bitrates are below about 2300, no matter the length of the movie. This was important so that D2S calculates a bitrate below max (e.g 2530), so the bitrate is not "truncated" to max bitrate. Although the intention was that one should never need to fiddle with these boxes, I may remove this "intrusive" behavior because I can now compute the correct bitrate myself, without using the D2S calculated numbers.

I tick the "create vaf" because OPV encodings needs it (in case of Sizing pass). Also this I can remove, because I think I override it in the .ecl file anyway.

@homerjay: Your oversizing is probably due to the (somewhat) wrong computation of the target size/bitrate in beta3. Did you adjust the times in the bitrate tab, so that you get the desired number of CDs?

Look out for the forthcoming version, it should at least fix the oversizing-because-of-oversized-target-size bug.

[Holomatrix]

ok, good to know that the plugin IS making these changes. I haven't had the oversize problem so no worries here.

[homerjay]

yes tylo i did change the bitrate settings from your defaults to 60 / 75 / 90 / 105 / 120 and changed the number of cd's all to be 1
i am including below the d2sroba log for the avi conversion i have had running which you can see is waaay off base.

thanks for the explanations and look forward to a new / better bitrate calculation ( my 1cd creation depends on it ;) )

========================================================
D2SRoBa v2.6.0 beta2 - DVD2SVCD plugin, by tylo
OS Version: WIN_XP
--------------------------------------------------------
- DVD2SVCD Shutdown
- 2003-09-25 13:04:06
--------------------------------------------------------
Settings:
- Encoding mode : OPV RoBa
- CD size : 800
- Number of CD's : 1
- Worst Q. : ---
- Maximum Q. : 48
- Sample percentage : 2.0
- Adjust Q. : -1.8
- Sample GOPs : 1
- Sizing pass on : 0 (-3.0 .. 1.0)%
--------------------------------------------------------
- Movie length : 01:44:27 (150273 frames, 23.976 fps)
- Audio size calc : 100282283. bytes (128 + 0 kbps)
- DVD2SVCD mpv est : 436776347. bytes (2230 kbps, 4 CDs)
- SelectRangeEvery : every 750, select 15 frames
- Num. sample frames : 3015
--------------------------------------------------------
Calculations:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
- Number of CDs : 1
- Target mpv size : 436776347. (558 kbps)
--------------------------------------------------------
- Binary search for Q:
- Estimated mpv size : 1333835111. (Q=24, 1702 kbps, 26761380 sample sz)
- Estimated mpv size : 1107536433. (Q=36, 1413 kbps, 22221040 sample sz)
- Estimated mpv size : 1021528840. (Q=42, 1303 kbps, 20495428 sample sz)
- Estimated mpv size : 983288623. (Q=45, 1255 kbps, 19728196 sample sz)
- Estimated mpv size : 971174476. (Q=46, 1239 kbps, 19485144 sample sz)
- Estimated mpv size : 959624937. (Q=47, 1224 kbps, 19253420 sample sz)
--------------------------------------------------------
- Determined Q. : 48
--------------------------------------------------------
- Encoding Movie
- 2003-09-25 13:43:21
--------------------------------------------------------
- Actual mpv file size:
25/09/2003 16:21 918572508 Encoded_Video_CCE_NTSC.mpv
--------------------------------------------------------
- Estimation result: 210.3% on target ( 918572508 / 436776347.)

PS noticed it estimated using 4 cd's and on looking back at bitrate tab it has changed the number of cds back to 1-6 with this films duration falling into the 4 cd bracket :confused:

[homerjay]

hi tylo sorry to be a pain in the ass but i cleared out all previous version i had about a week ago.
what was the last version that did not impose these changes and do you still have it ? something around v2.5.0 RC1 ??
if so could you please post the link here or on your website.

thanks for this excellent tool it has enabled me to do conversions where it was never possible using original mutipass methods :D

[tylo]

I'd say you should wait for the new version 2.7.1 beta1 coming up - most likely during weekend - I will test with AVI input also.

PS noticed it estimated using 4 cd's and on looking back at bitrate tab it has changed the number of cds back to 1-6 with this films duration falling into the 4 cd bracket You have to do the adjusting of time intervals/numCDs in the bitratetab after the plugin has started D2S. Also, it seems that you have done something funny in the bitrate tab: With my settings and CD size=800, D2S should select 4 CDs only for movies longer than 184 mins (over 3 hours) - your movie is only 1:44 long and should fall in the 2 CD bracket by default.
Note: in the upcoming version, you can leave the time brackes alone, the plugin will compute exact bitrates for 1 CD if you choose that.

[homerjay]

right you are then ;) i will hang on for new version
i should point out i had changed the bands to all read 1cd after starting plugin and before i clicked on start on d2s itself but as you say this wont matter anymore anyway so everything should be cool:D

[UltimateDBZ]

D9: Moved

Problem post, yes?