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sehh
23rd September 2003, 14:29
I've been doing tests with Mainconcept 1.4 and i consider it of
equal quality with the competition (tmpeg, cce).

Its also quite fast, and the encoder supports real-time encoding
from a capture card. SVCD/VCD/DVD compatible output is possible,
as well as custom modes.

Are there any plans to add support for Mainconcept in dvd2svcd?

sehh
23rd September 2003, 14:55
Oh i forgot to mention that by using Mainconcept we can skip
avisynth (optionaly ofcourse), since Mainconcept can do the
resize and crop on its own, and supports VOB input directly.

The advantage is great, since Mainconcept supports natively
SMP systems, and extended instructions (MMX, 3dNow! Extended, SSE, etc).

I made a few tests and it seems Mainconcept is more than twice
faster than CCE+avisynth (though CCE on its own is as fast).

I still have to make a few tests with fast motion scenes
and some too dark/light areas to make sure that Mainconcept
is as good as CCE 2.66.

I think that Mainconcept would be a real asset to dvd2svcd,
since avisynth will be optional, and SVCD creation time will
be possible within a few hours of encoding.

sehh
24th September 2003, 18:02
ok more into the Mainconcept encoder.

1) It gives comparable quality to CCE (no filters etc).

2) Its a lot faster than CCE+avisynth.

3) If you are not interested in any avisynth filters,
then Mainconcept is a must have.

4) It seems its possible to avoid using DVD2AVI, since
Mainconcept can read VOB files directly and encode to
mpeg2 directly. (still not sure about sound though)

5) Avisynth is not required for resize, since Mainconcept
can do Resize and Crop on its own, natively on the VOBs.

6) Maincocept also supports batch mode. Although i am
not sure if it supports commandline arguments.

sehh
24th September 2003, 21:43
Unfortunately, dvd2svcd is not interested to add support for
more encoders. My feature request at the bugtracker is now closed.

:(


edit: feature request URL: http://www.dvd2svcd.org/bugtracker/bug.php?op=show&bugid=240

Trahald
27th September 2003, 17:37
sehh.. if you really wanted support for a separate encoder, you could program your own plugin. autoit is an excellent tool for such a task. although you would end up having to stick with using avs scripts with main concept, your better off just making your own dvd2svcd type app since dvd2svcd was pretty much from the beginning written to work with .avs scripts. (you could make your plugin avoid the avs script but it would be a hassle)

DDogg
27th September 2003, 18:37
Or you could just interrupt the process after cce starts and get the bitrate. Do the encode with that bitrate and same name mpv as d2s uses. After encode increment the project position to 64 and do a restart from pulldown if you are ntsc or muxing if not. I think that would work fine although it would require manual steps and I have not personally tested it.

sehh
29th September 2003, 12:57
Thank you for the information people.

First i'll take a look at the avs scripts and see if i can create
a plugin that automates the process. Otherwise i'll try and do some
tests manualy and see how it goes.

Mainconcept does indeed do a great job and it would be a shame if
we didn't have some sort of support.