Can some people really rip at 12x or so??

[atreides93]

I keep hearing about people who can rip at 12x or greater??

I don't get it...I went and bought a toshiba 1712 drive, upgraded the firmware so it removes the speed limit, and I still only get 6x or 7x max...

so are people just lying or what?

[Tuning]

My drive is Sony DVDROM.It has a specification of 16X reading on single layer disc.And i really get it around 10X on some DVDs.Some i get 3X at max.some parameter is determining the speed of ripping(i think). ;)

[PC-GUY]

I've gotten has high as 12x but in most cases between 3x-7x, With my lite-on LTD163. :cool:

[dani82]

my average is about 4.2-5x on my Samsung 8x; single or dual layer dvd, all the same.

[MvB]

I've got the 1712 from toshiba and sometimes it gets over 10x, if the dvd isn't faulty, with that firmware you mentioned. For high speed it's important to have the DVD-ROM on another IDE-Controller than the HD you're writing to. And, obviously, you have to turn on UDMA for your DVD-ROM and your HD.

[atreides93]

Sigh...
maybe my WinXP is messed up or the computer....

I have the 1712 as a Slave on the secondary IDE. The NEc 1300A is the master on that channel....the HD's are on different IDE controllers.


With commercial DVD's I can only rip between 3-6x..sometimes 7x towards the end

[RB]

I have the SDM-1612 Toshiba drive with the hacked firmware and it usually gets to 10x towards the layer break on a DVD9. For a DVD5, it actually reaches the 16x mark if the disk is filled to the edge.

You'll never get the full advertised speed on a DVD9 because these are "harder" to read than a DVD5.

Also, make sure you are ripping to a fast disk. 16x DVD is 20 megs/sec.

[Tuning]

Speedy HDD(>7200 rpm) and higher amount of ram(>128MB) will make sense.:D

[jjseth]

With DMA activated in my Samgsung 16x the ripping speed is about 3-7x. In few DVD grow-up to 13x.
Sorry for my poor english.

[The Edge]

9.3x is the fastest I've seen from my Pioneer A06/106 (hacked firmware)

Edge

[vtwin0001]

I have done at 16x on my liteon

Please check that the dvd is clean and with no scratches, along with a clean laser to achieve full speed; however, the average I get is 10x - 8x

[SeeMoreDigital]

In my experience, x10 speed only ever happens when ripping 'single sided, single layered' DVD's!

Also, not so long ago I ripped the NTSC version of Mars Attacks. I ripped the 4:3 side of the single layered disc first, by mistake. And was surprised that it ripped a lot quicker than the 16:9 side of the disc!

Don't know why this was, as there's not much difference in the 2 vob sizes!

Cheers

[viol]

I got 2.5x with my $38 DVD player.
When I mount an ISO image of a DVD and I rip the DVD from the virtual DVD player, I can get as fast as around 15-16x (of course I had to rip it first at 2.5x speed!). But this is being done from hard disk to hard disk, ATA133 connection.
To get the same speed or near it using a real DVD drive is something beyond my immagination...

[The Edge]

2.5x seems kinda slow. Have you checked DMA is enabled?
I assume your Win2k/XP?

[viol]

Yes, Windows XP SP1.
My DVD is slow because it's cheap. I paid only 38 dollars for it. Technically, it's a Pionner DVD-ROM DVD-116, now region-free (it's an OEM that after flashed became a Pionner 116).
It never let me down, it's good for watching DVDs also, but slow for ripping.

EDIT: Uhmmm, something is wrong. I have a CD-R player and a DVD player connected to the same channel (this is against good common sense but I have a reason for it). The CD player is working in DMA 2 mode but the DVD is working in PIO mode, although DMA if available is enabled (and there is no way for me to force it to go to DMA mode). I don't know what's going on but I will take a look and see if I can fix it. Thanks for the tip - I totally forgot about this basic condition.

EDIT 2: I don't know how to fix the problem but I have a second installation of WinXP in the same machine, a very clean installation, and my DVD Player has Ultra DMA Mode 4 correctly enabled in it. I installed DVD Decrypter and run a test and I got steady speeds from 4.0x up to 7.9x !! Much better! And, weirdly, my buffer problem (see http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=62492) vanished. I can go to other windows that the buffer stays the same: 0% always.

EDIT 3: Last update. Problem solved. Using Google (I love Google), I found this page ( http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread/t-60663.html - WATCH OUT!! this page has a lot of pop-ups; don't click if you don't like them) and the solution presented there solved my problem. My DVD player now has UDMA 4 enabled. Thanks, The Edge, for your short but powerful tip ;)

[The Edge]

Good stuff. Glad I was of some help dude. ;)

Edge

[Gradius]

Well, I got 16x or more for SS-SL or DS-SL discs, since I have a RAID ide. The speed isn't only the DVD-ROM that count, your HD speed is damn important too.

I also got 8x or more on SS-DL discs too.

Good DVD-ROM drives are Pioneer 117, 120, LG 8160B, and so on.

Gradius

[cult]

today I ripped a dvd with a speed of 14x-15x.I dont remember happening before with my dvd.It is a pioneer 120ts tray,ide,no scsi,no raid

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by cult
today I ripped a dvd with a speed of 14x-15x.I dont remember happening before with my dvd.It is a pioneer 120ts tray,ide,no scsi,no raid What type of DVD was it. Single layered or dual layered?

Cheers

[SurfDrifter]

I think it is also important whether the DVD is CSS encrypted or not...

With Toshiba 1712, i have reached the limit (16x) on the outer edge of a pressed (not dvd-r) SL/SS Unencrypted DVD-Video...

If it's encrypted (it think) you lose some speed

[cult]

it was the karate kid.6,37gb all.Dont know if it means single or dual.Maybe dual?

[Tuning]

6,37gb all.Dont know if it means single or dual.Maybe dual?

DVD5=5GB(approx)-single layer
DVD9=9GB(approx)-dual layer