The end of the discs are unreadable.

[AthlonXP]

I just got a Lite-On LDW-401S and it worked pretty good on the first three discs I made, but now it's starting to suck. I used Sony brand 4x DVD+R discs the first 3 burns, then I got some memorex 4x +Rs and made 3 more. The memorex discs are readable all of the way through, but the read speed slows to less than 1x at the last 20% of the discs. The next 2 burns I did were with sony, the beginning and the end of the discs are saturated with errors, but at the end, I encountered unrecoverable errors. I used a divx file to fill up the rest of the space so that it would use 4,482MB of the 4,483MB on the discs, and that divx file isn't readable. You can see in the picture where it stops. I used my Lite-On 166s DVD-ROM to read it after I tried it with the burner. The burner gave pretty much the same results, just slower.


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Do I need to get better media, or are the Lite-On's DVD+R drives as crappy as their CD-RW drives? Should I return the Lite-On and just get a Pioner or Plexy?

I'm gonna try burning at 2x and 1x to see what that does. This is so retarded.

[atreides93]

IF you're getting bad burns with Sony branded disks I'd suspect your DVD burner is defective and should be returned. Get a Pioneer A06 or NEC 1300A and update the firmware.

[AthlonXP]

Ok, here's what I get with kprobe on a Memorex disc rated at 4x but burned at 2.4x

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[AthlonXP]

Is it in any way possible that my motherboard is causing the problems? I got a Chaintech nforce2 board out of newegg's refurb pile.

[AthlonXP]

Ok, I thought I'd try to read and backup a fresh movie that I've just bought, not one that's been in the cabinet a while and watched a few times. Fresh out of the shrinkwrap, it has a very low error rate. However, for some reason, the progress bar stops at 58%?

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In about 45 minutes I'll burn it onto a 4x rated Sony brand disc at 2.4x. We'll see how that turns out.

[AthlonXP]

Just as bad.

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I guess it's time to return this puppy. Is the HP 300vi any good?

[AthlonXP]

I just ran kprobe on a few CD-Rs that I just burned and came back with zero errors. Aren't there always SOME errors? I pulled out a CD that I burned way back in the 8x days(CMC magnetics with a smart&friendly rebadged Lite-On burner) and it had only 50 errors on the whole disc.

[AthlonXP]

I got brave and watched one I just burned at 2.4x. I used my Apex AD-1100W plugged into my capturecard controlled by Dscaler. I saw maybe two or three places where it paused just slightly, like 1/8th of a second. Only one of those places was near the end of the disc(I watched the credits and everything). I went back and watched each place, and it didn't do it the second time. I'm thinking the pauses may have been caused by something else on the computer. I scanned the disc right after I watched it, and here's what it came up with.

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Why the end? Why is it having some kind of "track following error" when I encountered no trouble watching the very last drop of video? I re-authored these with DVDShrink, and ripped out everything but the main movie and audio track, so I know I'm watching everything. Isn't a DVD burned at the same speed accross the disc? The new 8x plexys start at 6x and work their way to 8x, but I've burned these at 4x and 2.4x.

[AthlonXP]

Bought an HP 300vi today. I think I'm going insane. First, I burned a DVD-Video with nero. I then fired up kprobe, scanned the disc and was befuddled by the results. I then opened up Nero CD/DVD speed, also befuddled by the results.

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Why are the error rates still so high, why is the read speed so high? If kprobe's set to 8x max read, WTF was it doing reading freakin' 15.9X at the end of the disc? Why does nero CD speed say that the burst rate is 17MBps, and at one point be able to crank out 14x(18.4MBps) sustained? What's a guy gotta do to burn some damn DVDs? Tell me what to do, I'm your bitch.

[edit2] What's with the stair-stepping effect with the PI error rates? I noticed that on the Lite-On too.

[AthlonXP]

This has got to be the least interactive thread I've ever started and maintained, anywhere. I finish it only to help those who might have the same problems.

The scans above were run on my Lite-On DVD player. If my experience with Lite-On products(if I dare call them 'products') so far has taught me anything, it's that they're unreliable. So, I started CD-speed on the disc I scanned earlier, using the HP that burned it.

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I used the HP to scan some of the discs I burned on the Lite-On, they however, were still error-filled. So, the HP can burn error free discs, but it's slow as hell reading them back. Slow, but reliable. I like that, but not as much as I like fast AND reliable.

The moral of the story: Lite-On sucks, or at least mine do.

I'll order a Pioneer A06 in a few minutes. Or 106, is there a physical difference other than the label? I'll post my findings if anyone cares enough to request it. Otherwise, this thread will melt into the oblivion from whence it came.

[ronnylov]

I have a Pioneer A04 burner and a Liteon LTD-166S DVD-ROM reader (JLMS XJ-HD166S) in one computer and an old NEC DVD-ROM (NEC DV5700B)in my other PC. The Liteon DVD-ROM unit is wonderful, it reads almost everything. Here is my results on a Traxdata 4X DVD-R (Ritek G04) burned at 2X with my A04:

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This disc works all the way to the end, but not as good in the middle according to K-probe. Many other discs I have tried have problems above 4 GB. Perhaps you should try some other disc brand and burn it as slow as possible? Make sure you have DMA enabled. If you are using WinXP try uninstall the IDE-channel in device mangager, restart and let it install again. Then set "DMA if available", this restores the full speed of the IDE-interface.

[jsl]

Originally posted by AthlonXP
Bought an HP 300vi today. I think I'm going insane. First, I burned a DVD-Video with nero. I then fired up kprobe, scanned the disc and was befuddled by the results. I then opened up Nero CD/DVD speed, also befuddled by the results.

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http://invis.free.anonymizer.com/http://www33.brinkster.com/goobtard/crazykprobe.png

Why are the error rates still so high, why is the read speed so high? If kprobe's set to 8x max read, WTF was it doing reading freakin' 15.9X at the end of the disc? Why does nero CD speed say that the burst rate is 17MBps, and at one point be able to crank out 14x(18.4MBps) sustained? What's a guy gotta do to burn some damn DVDs? Tell me what to do, I'm your bitch.

[edit2] What's with the stair-stepping effect with the PI error rates? I noticed that on the Lite-On too.

The HP burns DVD+R as DVD-ROM book type for a maximum compatibility. That makes your Lite-On DVD-ROM read the disc with the same speed as a pressed DVD (ie 16x) and that is probably also the explanation to the PI/PO rates in Kprobe which is dependent of the read speed (I really don't trust Kprobe results very much anyway).
Few burnt DVDs will give perfect Cdspeed graphs in 16x but that doesn't mean that the media have a very bad burn quality.