Help on Pal & Ntsc Format

[zerohash]

Dear Friends,

I need your suggestion as it is very sensitive question.I need all of you to answer.
My Client wants to make a DVD master.It is an Educational DVD related to food.We are exporting throughout the World.USA,Uk,China,Japan,India,Australia etc.Since we want to make one Master what format should we adopt.All round the world is Pal except US.
As we have decided to make Pal format.Will my Pal DVD which i am making in all region(multi Region)work in USA.Do USA has Multi format DVD players and TVs.Will my Pal DVD Work in USA.
Kind help and Oblige.

Thanking You.
Zerohash

[auenf]

actually, your best bet is to use NTSC instead, heres why:

TV's and DVD players in the USA only support NTSC, and have for... ever.

TV's and DVD players sold in almost the rest of the world for the last 15years have been capable of playback of NTSC and PAL, with the exception of a couple of brands.

having said all that, you SHOULD get your client to make a NTSC and a PAL version of the disc, if only for sanitys sake before they get people complaining that the tomato's in the video are not red.

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ohh, and change the topic;


9) Use a title that describes the content of your post. Don't use all caps or special characters to draw attention.


using a topic like "All of You Should Answer" where you are trying to get as many people to read as possible WILL result in the opposite.

[drpaulng]

I agree that people should stick to the rule.

[srfscenar]

I totally agree that u should make 2 versions.U have to follow the rules.and of course u will have no complains about anything.

Good Luck!

[maa]

before they get people complaining that the tomato's in the video are not red

NTSC = Never The Same Color ?? :D

[zerohash]

Thanks friends for your reply and sorry about Rules.I am worried wether people in UK and India and other contries have Ntsc TVs?
Or else they will see Tomatoes Black.

Thanks

Zerohash

[drpaulng]

Go edit the thread title, people are willing to pour out more.

[drpaulng]

Well, the thread title is now fit to the topic (forget about the original now).

Have you seen any SECAM system DVD on the market? Even the french has to follow the rule. People living in Europe use PAL and their DVD Player can also read NTSC DVDs. On the contrary, the american DVD players have little luck to read the PAL DVD. Since 1 year ago, there are more and more DVD players output from mainland China and Taiwan that do the PAL/NTSC interconversion.

In case of world-wide distribution. You need to make both the PAL and NTSC versions with region 0.

The region code is purely added for Hollywood production regional distribution, it is a business matter to restrict distribution by certain company at certain region.

[auenf]

Originally posted by drpaulng
In case of world-wide distribution. You need to make both the PAL and NTSC versions with region 0.

you could get away with the PAL disc being encoded for regions 2,3,4,5,6,8 ;)

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[vtwin0001]

Not region 4 as some countries apart from USA and Canada DO use NTSC...

I think his best bet is to do one DVD in NTSC (in order to save money, if that's his concern) since all DVD players and TV in the world (including PAL and SECAM systems) are capable of playing NTSC

Also some reigon 3 are NTSC as far as I remember....

PAL is a better format, but thanks to stupid american laws and a lack of globalisation in those times, we are set now with a lot of different TV systems.

PAL, SECAM and NTSC... plus a lot of different variations of these

so.... my final opinion is using NTSC as if the DVD is for USA and forget about it.

[drpaulng]

http://www.microcinema.com/index/ntsc

The region code is a special "product" in movie industry, if the promotional material is not necessarily regionally restricted, then set it to 0 regardless to both PAL/NTSC systems.

The reigning society in old England spoke french and separated from the "low-class" English. Now, because of the american power, people all over the world have to learn English one way or another, for whatever reason (make a living/entertaining/learning...).

The French hates English and the English hates French for hundreds of years because of difference in Language (war starts always because of the misunderstanding of each other). If you can speak both french and english, you may then, by and by broaden the scope and gain the best from both culture.

The modern typewriter layout is not ergonormically designed but because of re-design of the better keyboard would mean a large recall program and educational expense. The original PAL and NTSC system design has a great part related to the 60Hz and 50Hz electric power system. The 200V system is more economically sensed than the more safe but less economic 100V system.

All in all, we are doing things in compromise. You are already very lucky to deal with only 2 systems in the DVD world. If the budget really restricts, then, choose NTSC because 95% of the worldwide DVD players reads NTSC disc, including the British DVD Players and TVs.

[mpucoder]

I agree, stay away from region coding, it was incorporated into DVDs at the request of the MPAA, and is for marketing purposes.
You can also get stung if you don't pay attention to worldwide standards and regions. An example, making PAL the only standard available in region 2 - that would exclude Japan.

And while we're at it, stay away from ineffective copy protection, like CSS and Macrovision - not worth the licensing fee.

[vtwin0001]

Also, if you want a PAL DVD is very easy to convert from NTSC

The only thing you have to do is IFOEdit all .IFOs from the dvd and change all the NTSC instances to PAL (and its respecting screen resolution, which is 720 x 576)

Anyways, the PAL DVD Player will be able to read NTSC DVDs just fine

(Sorry I goofed, but now this post has been corrected)

[mpucoder]

Simply changing the designation in the ifo files does not make the video NTSC compliant. It will probably play on a computer, but not in an NTSC DVD player. There is much more to converting than that, resolutions and framerates are different.

[vtwin0001]

No, I meant the other way around, from an NTSC DVD to a PAL DVD, changing from PAL instances to NTSC instances.

Sorry for the confusion that might be generated...

[mpucoder]

It doesn't matter which way you are going, NTSC and PAL video are not interchangeable. They must be re-encoded to the proper resolution, and processed in some way to adjust for the framerate difference. Simply saying it is NTSC or PAL in an ifo file does not perform the conversion. It may trick a software player, and may even work on dual standard standalones, as are used in most of the world except North America. But in an NTSC only player like mine, it does not work.
If it were that simple people would not have spent years on programs to make these conversions.

[vtwin0001]

Yes, I agree with that....

I meant from NTSC to PAL and NOT the other way around

NTSC players only read NTSC and will never read PAL discs even if they are tricked to.... so what I meant to say is that ZeroHash should create an NTSC disc for the whole world, and if in any case the disc wouldn't work, just tricking the hardware by editing the IFOS and changing the NTSC setting into PAL setting and changing the screen resolution: 720 x 576 would make the disc work properly ;)

[drpaulng]

The marketing strategy is simple:
With restricted budget, make NTSC region 0.
With more generous budget, make 2 versions, both region 0.
Fools no one with simplest approach explanation, no trouble thereafter.

[auenf]

Originally posted by vtwin0001
Not region 4 as some countries apart from USA and Canada DO use NTSC...

region 4 is australia and south america.

australia is PAL, parts of south america are NTSC

the only region that is NTSC only is r1, the other regions are either PAL, or are either.

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