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brit
7th September 2003, 14:41
Anyone know the easies / best tool to just remove extras and credits?

I was thinking it should be able to remove items by chapter (not trying to cut out random portions of the video). I was think of something that replaced then with a small (under a sec) blank portion, so the menuing still works.

thanks for any help

ammck55
7th September 2003, 17:32
Take a look at 2COOL's Cheat Sheet (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=60788&highlight=remove+extras/) and see if it doesn't fix you up. A little better description of your problem would be helpful, as in give "it" a title, and it's better to ask for straight suggestions, as what's "better or best" is a subjective call for each of us to make on our own. Good luck.

ammck55

killingspree
7th September 2003, 17:42
have you had a look at the ifoedit guide on doom9.org?

if the extras are in seperate VTS sets it shouldn't be a problem. removing the credits while retaining the menu functionality will be much more difficult to impossible!

hth
steVe

brit
7th September 2003, 19:21
Here are the detaisl of what I am trying to do:

My daughter has an anime dvd (fancy lala) which has been getting a bit beaten up, so I am trying to make a backup. It is a dual layer and 6.72 gig in size. It has 5 episodes on it, so I was going to see how much space I can save if I can remove the extra (textless opening, trailers, and credits), and also remove the credits and the repeating opening and end songs from each episode. I have not found any tools that can do this, so I thought I'd post to the experts. I can't even find anything that can deal with episodes very well.

I have been able to rebuils vobs with just the episode parts I wanted, but then menus were all messed up. I was thinking if I could just replace certain chapters with a 1 sec blank screen it may work, but I can't find anything that can do that either.

The other thing I was trying was fixing up the vobs, then make my own menu and the vobs I want, but I can't find a tool that takes random vobs and can build menus and a dvd with them.

I even looked at trying to make a tool to do this, but I don't know enough about the structure of the dvd files to try making anything.

2COOL
7th September 2003, 20:12
Originally posted by brit
Here are the detaisl of what I am trying to do:

My daughter has an anime dvd (fancy lala) which has been getting a bit beaten up, so I am trying to make a backup. It is a dual layer and 6.72 gig in size. It has 5 episodes on it, so I was going to see how much space I can save if I can remove the extra (textless opening, trailers, and credits), and also remove the credits and the repeating opening and end songs from each episode. I have not found any tools that can do this, so I thought I'd post to the experts. I can't even find anything that can deal with episodes very well.
@brit

I've done alot of animes and your request is very common. On a common anime DVD, textless openings (e.gs. Company Logos, Dolby Presentation) usually reside in their own TitleSet(VTS) in a single PGC Title.

You could easily get rid of them using this guide, How To Blank Out a TitleSet with a Single Program Chain (Optimized) (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=60533)

For trailers, on an average anime, they are usually separate and in their own TitleSets to. If so, you can repeat the method above. If they're all in a multi-PGC Titleset, then use this guide, How To Completely Blank Out a Multi-PGC TitleSet (Version 2 Optimized)
(http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=60788)

Now for credits, it'll be a little tricky since you want the opening and closing chapters stripped as it can be irritating when you have 5 episodes to watch and all the openings and endings are the same. You just want the meat of the episodes.

I can help you on this when I get home but unfortunately, I'm at work right now. Check your PM.;)

@ammck55

Good friend, can you move this to the IFO/VOB Editors forum?

ammck55
7th September 2003, 21:26
...and done! :)

windtrader
8th September 2003, 17:55
If you have identified and ripped the vobs, then just use VOBEDIT to join them together and IFOEDIT to create a new set of IFO.

If you don't mind some compression you can also try DVD2One or DVDShrink to create a new backup disc.

2COOL has great methods but they usually do involve tweaking the insides of the ifos, something the other options avoid and thus less error prone and less involved.

2COOL
8th September 2003, 19:51
@windtrader

Originally posted by windtrader
If you have identified and ripped the vobs, then just use VOBEDIT to join them together and IFOEDIT to create a new set of IFO.But that will lost his/her cool menus and he/she may not want it this way.

2COOL has great methods but they usually do involve tweaking the insides of the ifos, something the other options avoid and thus less error prone and less involved.

You should try it because it does keep the DVD structure intact. If it didn't, it wouldn't get by DVD Shrink's initial analysis phase. That's one good way to test if there are unreferenced materials. There is a reason to my way of backing up my DVDs. It is known that the more we stripped unwanted stuff, the better our video quality. DVD Shrink does not have the option to completely strip but it sets your unwanted Title as "Still Pictures". The Title is still there but a little smaller. Now DVD2one, also does not strip completely, compresses that existing Title as much as it's algorithm will allow. Again, the Title is still there but a little smaller.

I wanted maximum shrinkage, with the programs mentioned, do not give us that luxury. DVD95Copy, on the other hand, CAN completely remove a whole TitleSet by inserting blanks into each PGC. It doesn't work to well with Multi-PGCs when I want just one Title kept and the rest blanked out.

So with the above said...if my movie is initially too big to keep at it's original state, then I will manually remove my unwanted Titles before processing it through my current favorite transcoder, DVD Shrink. This is a valuable extra step I'm willing to take to ensure that I have a chance of retaining a higher level of video quality.

brit
9th September 2003, 04:22
thanks for the info. I am trying to work on it, but my job keeps interfering. I may have to wait until the weekend to get back to it. I'll keep you posted.