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MedicineMan
2nd September 2003, 13:18
I've stop using DVD2SVCD since January 2003, when i bought a DVD burner. Since then i've been backuping my DVD collection in DVD format, struggling with lots of programs to do it. So, it was with great pleasure that i started using again DVD2SVCD to backup DVDs, since now there's an easy way to do it with DVD2SVCD.
But i had a problem. Or maybe it's me that is wrong in my reasoning. I was backing-up a movie (Treasure Planet, Disney), and the main movie fitted in a DVD-R (yes, i've backuped it easily, without compression, with DVDShrink). And when i tried to backup it with DVD2SVCD, it began to re-encode the video again. Should it do that? Shouldn't DVD2SVCD leave the video alone? Or i am getting something wrong?
Sincerely
MM
The Edge
2nd September 2003, 13:28
DVD2SVCD is just a frontend, a GUI if you will....like the great GordianKnot for DivX/XviD.
You will always be re-encoding with DVD2SVCD no matter what is choosen.
If the original DVD will fit onto a DVD-R, use DVD Decrypter in ISO mode to copy DVD (Note: you will need NTFS partition)
Edge
sync
2nd September 2003, 15:54
Even if DVD2DVD didn't re-encode the video it still wouldn't make sense to use it in this situation. All the steps of demuxing, authoring and muxing are only useful if you need to re-encode.
mrbass
2nd September 2003, 17:30
I know where your coming from....you strip out everything except main audio stream and main movie and there is no compression needed. So then you suggest it should just demux, skip encoding, and remux it like dvd2dvd-r would do.
I don't know...I still think you should load of dvdshrink and see if it's worth it (set your own parameter here) to use dvd2svcd for the movie.
But I know that there are those out there that dvd2svcd will be all they wish to use so actually this would kinda be nice to detect if encoding is necessary or not.
MedicineMan
3rd September 2003, 11:12
mrbass, you got it perfectly well. I've been using DVD2DVD-R (i'm a PAL user), and would love to start using DVD2SVCD again to make my DVDs.
And yes, i was expecting it to behave like DVD2DVD-R does (it doesn't re-encode the video if it doesn't need to do it, if after stripping unneeded audio tracks and subtitles the final size is less than a DVDR).
I'm not sure, and maybe you could explain it a little. If i reencode, even to get the same final size, do i lose information? Is CCE better than the original encode? it can't be, i'm sure. Is there any more information that is lost? I've read some threads about loosing pan and scan information. So, apart from the time taken, maybe there's some penalty incurred.
I've backuped the movie with DVDShrink, after stripping and reauthoring, but i would like to have a program that allows me to choose the specific order of the audio tracks and subtitles. And to have a program that allows me the flexibility to reauthor the movie the way i want it to be. And DVD2SVCD allows me to choose it, with an interface i'm familiar with.
Sincerely
MM
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