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fedge
31st August 2003, 02:21
http://www.techtv.com/news/scitech/story/0,24195,3510492,00.html
Maybe other countries are smart enough not to add more waste to the landfills, but here in the good ol' US of A.. greed still reigns king. And the small business owners are made to suffer the consequences.(see the cons in the link above)
RathO
31st August 2003, 05:05
Wow, i can't believe they wanna start that disposable dvd thing...
Don't we already waste enough ressources? damn. :angry:
And i prefer to see my dvd's in my library rather than in my garbage...
@ fedge, you should really add this to your poll (i quote u): We are smart enough not to add more waste to the landfills.
and then ill vote ;)
communist
31st August 2003, 08:37
^^ I totally agree with RathO
Barker
31st August 2003, 08:44
Dumb idea, the disposable dvd stuff, wait for it to come on HBO, Showtime, Cinemax, etc. Why waste a perfectly good drink coaster:confused: .
BTW, the poll should be, how many people throw out their burned coasters, and want to get a better drive? (same thing, on a smaller scale). Of course im just kidding. I agree this idea is for the disposable dvd's is somewhat retarded imho.
Regards,
Barker
Doom9
31st August 2003, 10:14
DMCA and disposable discs amount about to the same as the good old DIVX system, just without the big brother aspect. But the "no late fees" argument is marketing ploy to sway customers.. from a studio perspective they just don't want you to own movies anymore.. they want you to pay over and over again if you want to watch their content.
Barker
31st August 2003, 10:21
Slightly off topic, was the original DIVX (from the big corps, I want to say BestBuy or The Wiz) an acronynm for Digital Video Exchange? I cant remember now, and I don't know the deal with it, but still to this day in NY, when I say DIVX to friends they think its a rental.
I might be crazy.
Dunno...
Regards,
Barker
Kedirekin
31st August 2003, 14:34
Sounds like a public relations nightmare to me.
"I rented this DVD but it won't play. The package was ripped."
"My son watched this DVD right away when I got it home, but I didn't get around to watching till the next night, and it's unwatchable."
Like media companies don't have enough bad press. I almost hope they try it.
ppera2
31st August 2003, 15:09
I think that intention with such DVD's is to avoid costs of stuff - no need to receive back and check disks. And of course to force people that pay many times for same movie. Buying can be in any time, from automat.
In praxis, success will depend mostly from price. And it's sure that more people will make illegal copies in such case.
Lord_KiRon
31st August 2003, 16:36
I like the idea , it will be much cheaper when I descide to rip it :)
Doom9
31st August 2003, 17:17
DIVX stands for DIgital Video eXpress. Looks like I forgot to put the meaning of the acronym into my glossary.
jeremymacmull
31st August 2003, 17:19
personally i think disposable dvds would be a damn stupid idea as an example
i recently bought a dvd LOTR FOTR SEE (people should know what this is!!) and i did not actually get round to watching the extra two disks till about 2 months after if this was a disposable i would not be able to watch it
plus wouldnt this make people all the more eager to back up their dvds ie even a law abiding john smith would want to back up their 21 day version which they paid for so they can watch it 2 months later
cos face it unless they make it really really really cheap like 50p then no one is going to buy it
JEREMY
just my two bits :devil:
(Getting people to agree its like herding cats)
fedge
31st August 2003, 19:25
looks like i finnally made a subject that means something to everyone... and yep i dont think filling the landfills with yet another post consumer waste item is a good idea. Maybe(big maybe here) if they were to develope , before releasing this item, a way to recycle the product and market that idea, more peope would be open to it.. But also, there would be ways to get around the "protection" im sure, what if you could coat a freshly opened dvd with something to stabilize the oxidation process. (simple as spraying it with some chemical) OR even you could clear coat the surface, no air no degredation of the surface.
I think they are just really wasting their time.
I would say, dont buy(rent) or support this idea whatsoever, if they don't offer a movie you want on regular dvd then wait till this project fails and get it elsewhere or BORROW it from a friend(yah that copyright enfringment...according to these lawyers...but who makes the laws.. the elect few.. or the people that serve under them..(i mean us the public)... we have the right to say what we can do with our stuff and where...
SeeMoreDigital
31st August 2003, 19:45
My God. If this idea ever comes to the market place. Then I will have to totally re-think my views regarding DVD piracy!
As it is, for me, mankinds worst scurge is 'packaging' and packaging companies. These tossers have had it their own way for far too many years. And we, the consumers have allowed them to get away with it!
It's well within their technology to create bio-degradable packaging but we, the consumer don't create the necessary pressure for them to do so!
Given that DVD rental is a massive business, if this idea was to become a reality. Then, for me, the movie production companies deserve the worst possible consumer backlash...
...Total and absolute piracy of their entire output!
Have a nice day!
Lord_KiRon
1st September 2003, 12:10
I ust hope they will not stink when "degradating" :)
erbuk
1st September 2003, 20:53
Watched Matrix 2 yesterday and fell asleep after 20 minutes, extremely boring movie. But I still want to se it cause I would be considered stupid in some circles if I didn't know what it was about. In cases like this you don't want the disc to turn into compost before you feel strong enough to view the rest :rolleyes:
wmansir
1st September 2003, 21:48
As I stated in another thread I don't think this is a great product (but I'm not crying for the video rental stores who will loose their precious "late fee" income.) And I also have no idea how this will "fight piracy" since it's protected by the same encryption as normal DVDs.
However, I do think one possible anti-piracy use for this product is to use them to send out screeners. With DVD screeners becoming more common, these limited life DVDs would probably be very effective in cutting down on the number of screeners that eventually make their way to pirate groups. Of course this is a low volume segment, which means little impact on the environment, but it may be cost prohibitive to create these disposable DVDs in low numbers.
SeeMoreDigital
1st September 2003, 22:37
Hi wmansir,However, I do think one possible anti-piracy use for this product is to use them to send out screeners. With DVD screeners becoming more common, these limited life DVDs would probably be very effective in cutting down on the number of screeners that eventually make their way to pirate groups. If you are talking about the discs that are sent to various people or organizations in order to drum up votes (for their movies) at academy award ceremonies. Then the answer's simple... don't send them out.
There's no reason why such disc's need to be sent out prior to the movies official release. All it would mean is that the a proposed movies entry date would have to be shifted a couple of months. A small price to pay for closing a piracy source.
I can't think of any other reason why a movie should be sent out to any particular person prior to it's official release date. It's just asking for trouble.
Even in the days when I used to telecine films. If the film makers were proud enough of their product, there was nearly always a represetitive on hand, keeping an eye on what was going on. Which is afterall, is a small price to pay for protecting your product.
And such 'screener' tapes nearly always went out with the timing code numbers running along the bottom of the frame. Which admittedly was usually positioned in the matte.
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