Backup Superbit Version DVD Without Layer Break

[Michael Glay]

I Have Backup The <<Panic Room>>(Superbit,Dual Layer) Main Movie Only with DVD Shrink v3.0 Beta 5. Then Open The Output File with Ifoedit,
It has no Layer Break. It's My First Time to Bakcup Superbit DVD,I want to know Is All The Superbit Version DVD Like This? I am not good at english,Thanks.

[writersblock29]

It depends on the disk; certain ones do, others don't. Since Superbit movies use a much higher-than-traditional bitrate, MOST tend to use the entire capacity of the disk -- so in those cases, yes, there'd be a layer break in there somewhere. If IFOedit isn't reporting a layer break anywhere in the stream, then you're pretty safe in assuming none exists... although, if I remember correctly from when I backed up my own copy of this movie, there were layer breaks to contend with -- which IFOedit removed when I set it to "movie-only." (IFOedit also removes layer breaks when you're stripping stuff out of the VOBs, too.) I've heard several people stating that DVD Shrink doesn't remove layer breaks... So try this: Load the VTS IFO for ONLY the VOBS containing the movie file (for movie-only, you'll have two; VIDEO_TS.IFO and VTS_01_0.IFO -- only load VTS_01_0.IFO into IFOedit). Now check. I say this because if the VIDEO_TS.IFO is the one you've got loaded into IFOedit, then you'll not see anything about layer breaks. If VTS_01_0.IFO is loaded, then you'll see "true" information regarding the Video Title Set, or movie files. If you find any -- or simply want to "make sure" -- then simply pass this IFO through IFOedit and re-create your "movie-only" project with IFOedit, stripping nothing. Layer breaks will be removed, but otherwise your project's the same.

[Michael Glay]

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[MedicineMan]

Does the above trick ("passing" the result of an encoding through a program that removes layer break, without stripping or compressing anything) works with a program that removes layer break? If that's so, then i could encode my movie with DVDShrink and feed the result to DVD2ONE or IC, for the sole purpose of removing the layer break. And it would work for reauthored or full movies, with more than one IFO.

I've once tried it (DVDShrink, followed by IC), but i'm not very sure about the final result. Yes, the movies play perfectly well, so it seems it works. But i'm not an expert in video or IFOEDIT, so i'm not sure it really removed the layer break without causing any problems. Anyone else cares to try it and share the results with us?


Sincerely



MM

[writersblock29]

@MedicineMan

No, no... your logic is sound. Both IFOedit and DVD2ONE look for the same things in the stream, as it pertains to "layer breaks." In either instance, though, it seems a tad redundant to go from one transcoder to another for seperate purposes, don't it? Hopefully this is something that DVD Shrink's working on. He's already pulled off quite a nice program, nonetheless. And, again: Not everyone's player will pause when it reaches a layer break in a video stream. If you're only making backups for yourself -- and don't plan on lending them out at any time -- so long as they work to your expectations on your player... gravy, man!

[digitalman]

If you run into a movie like Jay and Silent Bob, in the US, there is no help. The part before the layer break is film, the other is NTSC interlaced 29.97. You definitely see the change at the layer break.

[daehkcid]

Wh are they doing that?

[MedicineMan]

I think i will wait until DVDShrink removes the layer break. Im my DVD players i "see" the layer break. And yes, i do think that running the result of one encoder through another encoder/transcoder just to remove the layer break is a pain in the ass. But at least it's an easy way to do it.


And yes, i only backup my movies for my personal use (and i admit that i backup some only for the joy of doing it, and getting a reasonable quality backup). I expect that all of us are doing it for the same purpose.

[writersblock29]

@MedicineMan

I hear ya, man. I wasn't intending to say that you're doing otherwise. I, personally, tend to loan out my backups (we're protecting our originals, after all, right?) so that if they get ruined... well, the experience only cost me $1.60 a blank, ya know? Plus, when kids and DVDs get mixed together... well, that's why we back our stuff up. I sometimes make backups of one of my friend's movies for her, since her six-year-old can load the movies into the player on his own, but lacks the ability to navigate the menus. Making her copies movie-only sidesteps that problem quite nicely.

Personally, I have a mass hatred for FBI warnings, and those stupid Universal movie previews that they insist on putting in front of their main feature and you just can't friggin' skip. I hate animated menus that play for five minutes before even allowing the BUTTONS to appear. Making backups allows me to fix all of that. Man, it's nice that things are developing so quickly and giving us so many choices!

Given the amount of updates we've already seen from DVD Shrink, I doubt you and I have long to wait on the layer break issue. In the meantime, at least we have other options!

--Cheers!

[MedicineMan]

Some problem here. My 3 year old kid just destroy DVDs, and doesn't know what to do if the main movie doesn't start automatically (and in the correct language). So i need an easy way to reauthor my DVDs, to my specifications (well, at least to my kids desires). If only DVDShrink would allow me to choose my default audio track (yes, i know how to do it in IFOEDIT, but why should i have to do it?).

Sincerely


MM