Has anyone done Lord of the Rings TT successfully on one dvd-r?

[spruceland]

Has anyone done Lord of the Rings TT successfully on one dvd-r? I'm buying it tomorrow and would like to make a backup of it if it can fit nicely on one disk w/ dvd shrink. Thanks

[The eDealer]

DVDShrink works fine (only 64% in re-author Mode and cut of credits!).
IC7 doesn't get the german audio correctly, so you'll get just the picture!!

I think dvd2dvd-r would bring the best result.

[SiXXGuNNZ]

I did TTT movie only with shrink 3 beta 5 today, no menus, only english audio, no subs, came out pretty nice, I can see some things if I look hard enuff, but it looked good on my 34" sony and my 27" sony tv's

I didn't know I could cut credits in shrink, I might be using that in the future :D

[Frasier]

made it with instant copy 8 - looks FANTASTIC !!

[MedicineMan]

Yes, sure. Did it with DVD2DVD-R. It works flawlessly and with great quality.

MM

[DataGuard]

Originally posted by The eDealer
DVDShrink works fine (only 64% in re-author Mode and cut of credits!).
IC7 doesn't get the german audio correctly, so you'll get just the picture!!

I think dvd2dvd-r would bring the best result.

Same happend to me, no german audio. DVDShrink beta5 worked fine, but I think IC7 picture looks a bit better.
I will try IC8 later today.

[The eDealer]

Same problem in IC8 :(
I will try the "Movie only" Option today with the english voice stream, perhabs its a Problem with the language mark in IC??

With Power DVD i had the english voice and at the SAP no Voice, when i select the german stream ?!

[mrbass]

I did two towers with the new DVD2DVD 1.2.1 build 1
(aka dvd2svcd )the result was awesome (requires CCE and Scenarist 2.6 or 2.7 and about 25-30GB free diskspace, does main movie only)
I did two towers with the new dvd2dvd( aka dvd2svcd)the result was awesome (requires CCE and Scenarist 2.6 or 2.7 and about 25-30GB free diskspace, does main movie only)

DVD2DVD will be my main choice for movies that DVDShrink requires lots of compression (insert my own rule of thumb here). Instant Copy is useful for episodic dvds or if you can't meet the requirements for DVD2DVD (software or hardware-wise). Of course Big3 is probably the way to go for 1:1 copies but that's not quite 'one-click solution'.

How does dvd2dvd compare with dvd2dvd-r? Well if you do PAL DVDs feel free to continue to use dvd2dvd-r (if it works for you why change). However, for NTSC dvd2dvd detects CCE settings, etc. and muxes subtitles wonderfully with scenarist. With dvd2dvd-r you had to manually mux with an already created script. DVD2DVD does this scenarist muxing automatically so you when you click go it Rips, Demuxes, Encodes with CCE, Muxes with Scenarist and you have your video files ready to burn.

[snidely]

However, for NTSC dvd2dvd detects CCE settings, etc. and muxes subtitles wonderfully with scenarist. With dvd2dvd-r you had to manually mux with an already created script. DVD2DVD does this scenarist muxing automatically so you when you click go it Rips, Demuxes, Encodes with CCE, Muxes with Scenarist and you have your video files ready to burn.

Whoa...this sounds great! Is this guide labeled as "DVD2SVCD" on your site? Does it get the chapter structure correct? I was having issues with DVD2DVD-R/CCE due to some problems with the chapter points getting correctly sized and placed.

[mrbass]

I jumped the gun...it might be released soon (as id software says or when it's done)..I thought it was because it says Aug 28 in the readme.txt
http://www.dvd2dvd.org/Readme.txt

[The eDealer]

OK, for all german users with IC 7/8:
You have to select the ENGLISH audio language for the main film to get the german one!!

I dont know how it works for the english user ?!

[maa]

Originally posted by mrbass
Muxes with Scenarist Thats interesting - could you give more details on that. I don't have scenarist and never will but as it comes from Sonic Solutions I wondered if the muxing engine is the same in all their products?
Or does DVD2DVD use a standalone version of the muxer?

[pv110]

I have done it with Nero 6 and result was very good. I did it 60% w/ menu 50% and took off the end credits which is about 6 min. I tried DVD2ONE & IC7 w/ bad results very blocky. DVDShrink was good almost the same as nero but colors quiet faded.

[bb]

I did LOTR2 twice (main movie only, one audio only), because I wasn't pleased with the DVDShrink 3 beta 5 result (showed lines in faces due to overcompression, grass too blurry, blocks, etc.).

For the second try I used DVD2DVD-R / CCE 2.50, limited the bitrate for the end credits to 1600 kbps, and got a very pleasing result.

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[Richk50]

"For the second try I used DVD2DVD-R / CCE 2.50, limited the bitrate for the end credits to 1600 kbps, and got a very pleasing result."

I think I'm going to get another very fast computer just to use CCE again. The results in my eyes were always clearly better than anything else. Just couldn't tie up my work computer for extended periods.
How long did it take to encode 2towers?

[Lazza]

Originally posted by The eDealer
OK, for all german users with IC 7/8:
You have to select the ENGLISH audio language for the main film to get the german one!!

I dont know how it works for the english user ?!

Oh hell!

Now I read this after 1 hr 40 mins of encoding on IC8 and only 7 mins remaining! :eek:

Ah well, I will have to keep stopping it every couple of mins and get a German > English translation from Babelfish as I did not include subs! :D :p

Oh man I hope the English stream is OK. :scared:

[fusion007]

just done it with ic7 at 54% came out very good thinking of doing it with something else to squeeze a bit more quality out!

[Lazza]

I can now (thankfully!) confirm that the English stream *is* OK with IC8.

I have to be honest and say I'm a bit disapointed with the results though.

1) Came out at a pathetic 4.15GB !!! :mad:

2) Slected menus with the movie and they did not appear on the finished disc. :confused:

3) A lot of pulsating & visible blockiness on many scenes!

Is this really an advancement on IC7 I ask? Does not look like it so far. Think I'll try the DVD2SVCD + CCE route tomorrow instead. :rolleyes:

[The eDealer]

1) Came out at a pathetic 4.15GB !!!
Thats also my problem with the second and third try in IC.
It doesn't make any difference if i use the movie only or the complete DVD mode, the result ist much to smal and doesnt change!
The problem with the german language stream seems to be an exclusive german problem (?), so my suspicion proved to be wrong that the marking of both streams is mix up ?!

My last try was DVD2DVD an the result is excellent!

[xmenxmen]

Did it with D95, with just movie, menu and 1 audio (no sub or other audio). Looks great on my 53".

[Lazza]

Just backed up Father Ted Series 2 D1 with IC 8, I saved the files to disc and should I be grateful? It came out as a massive "4.17 GB" this time! :p

Maybe my eyes are starting to fail but the pic quality just ain't right! :mad: IC 7 seems to be much better, I've just checked a couple of old IC 7 encoded discs and I am *not* going mad they are better!

Hell, now I've got a red hot chip in my system I'm gonna start going the long route I think via CCE. ;)

[lambo]

Originally posted by The eDealer
OK, for all german users with IC 7/8:
You have to select the ENGLISH audio language for the main film to get the german one!!

I dont know how it works for the english user ?!

same thing happens with italian version

to use italian audio you have to select english... i selected italian and i got no audio.. tomorrow i'll try to select english and i think it will work

anyway the video was very good (with IC8... about 58.9% compression - high quality)

[JFerguson]

Yeah, those IC8 problems. I gave it a whirl on one title and it just couldn't work it.

Wiped the system clean, reinstalled W2k, and went back to IC7.

I don't know what to make of this pending rev - it just doesn't seem like it's all there...

[lambo]

Originally posted by lambo
same thing happens with italian version

to use italian audio you have to select english... i selected italian and i got no audio.. tomorrow i'll try to select english and i think it will work

anyway the video was very good (with IC8... about 58.9% compression - high quality)

this method with the italian version does not work :(

i think i'll try IC7... i hope that the quality would be good enough

[catx]

Originally posted by lambo
this method with the italian version does not work :(

i think i'll try IC7... i hope that the quality would be good enough

is your chapter selection menu working correctly? I used ic7 to recompress the menu after reauthoring the main movie with scenarist, but if I select chapter 53 the player hangs up

[twinches]

Originally posted by maa
Thats interesting - could you give more details on that. I don't have scenarist and never will but as it comes from Sonic Solutions I wondered if the muxing engine is the same in all their products?
Or does DVD2DVD use a standalone version of the muxer?

No, the muxing engine is not the same in all of their products. Scenarist is their Professional product that cost several thousands of dollars and is actually the program that most Hollywood studios use to Author the DVD's that you are making backups of. I hate sonic's consumer level products as in IMHO they all suck. But scenarist is a differnt beast all thogether. Actually Sonic didn't create Scenarist originally, They just bought out the company that did a few years ago. Scenarist is a real beast to use though and almost takes a degree in DVD authoring in order to understand it. But that is why programs like dvd2dvd and dvd2dvd-r use scripts to programatically access scenarist to do what is needed.

[maa]

Ah - thanks for the reply twinches.

[DVD Maniac]

Not wishing to go against the flow here but I split this movie to two discs using DVDFab. Don't get me wrong, DVDShrink and other comparable apps give amazing results at high compression levels but the length and scene complexity of this movie are just too much to get really good results.

With the price of good quality blanks these days I just don't see the need to compromise the quality on the big titles like this.

Just my opinion...