Burn DVD to include JACKET_P

[Chowskie]

Greeting to all masters,

I'm pretty new to the scene. I normally use IC7 or DVDDecrpter to burn my DVD. I don't think these two programs allow me to brun a DVD with the JACKET_P folder and its contents intact.

So, does anyone know which software is capable of doing the job?

[JFerguson]

Chowskie...

IC7 should allow you to check or uncheck JACKET_P, or any other folders/files in the root, if you're doing a Customized Resize. If it's checked off, it should be in the resultant PDI file-set.

It'll be there if you use DVD Decrypter too. If you read a DVD-5 to an image file, it'll all be there, and will burn back.

If you create an ISO (with ImgTool Classic / mkisofs / etc.), and the files are in your working root folder, then the ISO will contain them, and DVD Decrypter will burn it all.

[2COOL]

Here's a recent post (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=358889#post358889) from the author of ImgTools, CouJo, on this matter.

[Chowskie]

Originally posted by JFerguson
IC7 should allow you to check or uncheck JACKET_P, or any other folders/files in the root, if you're doing a Customized Resize. If it's checked off, it should be in the resultant PDI file-set.

It'll be there if you use DVD Decrypter too. If you read a DVD-5 to an image file, it'll all be there, and will burn back.

First of all, after I decrypted my DVD, Panic Room, using DVD Decrypter, the JACKET_P folder was not being copy to my HD. I only have one folder, 'VIDEO_VTS'. I used 'File Mode' and select all (Ctr-A) to decrypt.

I then manually copy JACKET_P directly from the DVD to the 'PANIC_ROOM' folder in my HD. So now 'PANIC_ROOM' has two folders, 'VIDEO_VTS' and 'JACKET_P'. But when I run IC7, 'JACKET_P' is no where to be seen in the folder list. All I see is the 'video tracks' folder which include all the title sets.

What did I do wrong?

[JFerguson]

Chowskie...

I rip with DVD Decrypter in ISO mode, mount it with Daemon Tools, then work on it from there with InstantCopy. The ISO is an image of the original DVD, so everything's there.

If you rip in file mode, then you have just the DVD audio-video content, and nothing else. It doesn't matter how you structure it; InstantCopy is just going to read VIDEO_TS.IFO from whereever you have it and derive the DVD audio-video content from there.

If you prefer to work with file mode, then with InstantCopy, you'll have to convert the resultant PDI fileset to an ISO (using PDITool), then mount and extract the files from the converted ISO back to your hard drive somewhere. Once you do that, you can copy the JACKET_P folder into that extracted location, then re-ISO everything and burn with DVD Decrypter or burn the files directly if your software supports that (e.g. Nero / ImgTool Burn, RecordNow Max, etc.).

It seems easier to just rip in ISO mode to begin with, in my opinion.

Although...I usually have to go through all that PDI fileset hassle anyways, because I insert an ORIG_R directory into the root of every burn I do. In this directory, I place:

[list=1]
a text file called METHOD.TXT that describes that actions taken to bring the DVD-9 down to DVD-5.
an archive file called VIDEO_TS.ZIP, which contains the original .IFO files from the original DVD
[/list=1]

So, I'm in the same boat as you are with file mode. However, I've been ripping my DVDs to the point where all I have is movie and no extras. This gets me to around 10% compression or less, so I just use DVD Shrink in this case, and don't have to fool around with Pinnacle's proprietary PDI format.

p.s. - Check out that recent post by KYUSS on PDI file mounting; maybe there's an easier way?

[Chowskie]

JFerguson,

Please educate me on this:

Originally posted by JFerguson
... However, I've been ripping my DVDs to the point where all I have is movie and no extras. This gets me to around 10% compression or less, so I just use DVD Shrink in this case, and don't have to fool around with Pinnacle's proprietary PDI format.

Did u mean that after ripping the DVD in ISO mode to your HD, u convert the image back to DVD files (vob, ifo, etc), then strip extra using IFOEdit or some other tools before running DVD Shrink?

[JFerguson]

Chowskie...

The biggest problem I have with ISOs mounted with Daemon Tools is IFOEdit.

WHOA! Hold on...I stand corrected - tried this again and it does work. Ignore the following:
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If the first thing I want to do is rip a lot of content via VOB-ID stripping, IFOEdit essentially fails because it doesn't like the Read-only attributes on the *.IFO files.

I don't understand what difference it makes, since it's just gonna write these modifications to copies of these files in the target directory.

If IFOEdit would allow this, then, after the strip, I could copy the rest of the source files from the mounted image to the target directory.

Can't do it (unless there's a workaround). So, if I really want to do this strip, then yes, I have to copy/extract the content from the mounted image to the hard drive and work from files off the hard drive.
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Lately, though, I've been going straight from mounted .ISO to DVD Shrink, do a Deep Analysis, calc/estimate what kind of compression the movie's gonna need after title stripping, then run Shrink with that compression. After Shrink does its thing, I title strip from its files.

So, it seems there's pro and cons to both ripping in File mode or ISO mode. I just like ISOs, I have plenty of fast hard disk space, so I just use that route. If I do need to copy the files (redundant) to the hard drive from a mounted ISO right off the bat, then it's no big deal.

The other thing I do is use a directory tool called Beyond Compare (www.scootersoftware.com) for all of this file copying, file backing up, and directory comparison. Once you get the hang of this tool, it makes all of these kind of operations incredibly easy.

[Chowskie]

Thanks for going into such a detail level in this. I really need more guidance on different way (more effective way) of backing up a DVD.

Great, now I have a new field to explore. :D

P/S: I successfully backup Panic Room using DVDShrink with JACKET_P folder and PROCESS folder. PROCESS.TXT in PROCESS folder describes the steps I took to make the DVD. Thanks for the tips. :D :D

[JFerguson]

Chowskie...

I updated my post above. I tried a big VOB-ID strip on a mounted ISO and IFOEdit complained about detecting a DVD drive and not being able to decrypt DVDs, but it processed my strip and re-wrote the VIDEO_TS.IFO and VTS_0x_0.IFO/BUP files to the target directory.

SWEET! :)

[spiderman2k1]

easy way use ANYDVD encode a DVD with IC7 or IC8 from the DVD-ROM drive all folder will be there when you burn

[spiderman2k1]

Also NERO encode will do it.