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maiki
12th August 2003, 04:42
Hello--

The question is rather long, I hope some have the patience to go through it, and can offer some insight and suggestions into the problem. I am a newbie to digital video and video capture, although I'm fairly computer literate.

My computer is a Fujitsu laptop, Lifebook C series Model 2210, Pentium 4-M 2gHz CPU, memory expanded to 768 MB, 30 GB HD, running Windows XP Home, updated via Windows Update with all the newest patches. Video memory changed from 32 to 64.

Just recently I purchased a simple external USB analog video capture device, a Dazzle DVC 80. I have tried recording movies from VHS tape through this device to the computer, with which I can later perhaps record them to CD (the computer's DVD/CDRW drive can only playback DVDs, only burns CDs), or compress them to Pocket PC format to watch on my PDA. I have tried this with different software, some that came with the device and other hardware I have, and others I downloaded.

The capture seems to start OK, but then quickly runs out of space. It seems like most capture software captures first uncompressed, before encoding and compressing, and uncompressed video takes an incredible amount of space. So, even with about 8 or 9 GB left on my 30 GB hard drive, I quickly run out of space, and can't record very much, nothing close to a full movie.

So, I decided to purchase a large external hard drive. I purchased an 180 GB Firewire HD over the Internet. My laptop has both Firewire and USB 2.0, and USB 2.0 is supposed to be a little faster than Firewire, and devices with USB 2.0 cost a little less than Firewire devices. However, I have read that there are still many problems with USB 2.0 devices, it being such a new technology, so I figured the Firewire would work more reliably.

The drive should be a good one--Hitachi Deskstar (i think these were formerly labeled IBM) 7200 RPM, 8 MB cache. However, the external case is generic, no brand name at all, no company name or contact info, etc.

I formatted it NTFS, all one large partition. I ran Scandisk and Chkdsk on it, including the sector checking, and everything showed up OK.

However----when I try the video capture again, with the external drive set to for the video capture files, temp files, etc., it runs into a problem. It starts OK, but after a certain time the capturing stops, I see that the external drive doesn't exist any more in "My Computer", and some kind of error message from Windows saying that it can't write to the drive.

I tried capturing with various software, and the same problem occurred with each. I turned off write caching for the drive, and the problem still occurs.

To get the drive to be recognized again, I have to unplug it, turn it off, wait a little, turn it back on again, and then plug it in to the Firewire slot again. Sometimes i have had to re-boot to get it recognized. When I run error-checking on it again, still no problems.

So, what I'd like to know is--what's causing the problem? Is this external firewire hard drive defective? (If so, I'd suspect more likely the housing and interface is defective, rather than the drive itself.) Should I call the company I purchased it from, and demand that they exchange it for another one?)

Or, are there changes in Windows XP configuration, or in the configuration of the video capture software, that would make it work correctly?

I would appreciate any feedback and suggestions. Thank you.

killingspree
12th August 2003, 13:48
hi and welcome to the forum,
hmmm... well all i can imagine is that the USB in and firewire out somehow share the same resources and therefore limit themselves. so perhaps it works for some time, but then ressources are not enough for in and outputting uncompressed video at the same time. as you noticed already we're talking huge masses of data there!

anyway, what codec are you using? or what method? have you had a look at the capture guide on doom9.org?

it would be good if you could make some tests with lower bandwith. e.g. low res video @ vcd res or so...

oh one more thing: have you tried doing a firmware update for your firewire hd or the firewire controler?

i've had the same (not getting recogniced) error with my firewire dvd burner and upgrading to the latest firmware did some magic there :)

hope this helps
steVe

mrlipring
12th August 2003, 21:23
i have no space like you, so i use iuvcr to capture to high bitrate (8mbit upwards) divx5. you'll need a very fast cpu to capture such high bitrates at high resolutions though.

it captures at between 1 and 2 megabytes/second @ 720 * 576 and the quality's amazing. uses 80-90% of my athlon @ 2127mhz though. you're looking at a fast pc for this. saves a hell of a lot on disk space though.

Andykard
12th August 2003, 21:48
I have an 80GB Maxtor firewire external drive (which I bought for video work)and have problems using it for extended periods of time. When it was new it was perfect. I ran a hardrive speed test on it and it was my fastest drive. After about 2 months it slowed down and I started getting windows write errors. I reformatted but no difference. I returned it to Maxtor and everything was fine for a few weeks again and then the same problem, windows write failed. I returned again and again the replacement worked for a short while and then gave the windows write error. At this point I gave up on the firewire drive and bought an IDE hard drive and have not had any problems since. I suspect (and it was more or less confirmed by tech support)that the problem is the firewire technology!

lilhobo
13th August 2003, 06:07
my guess is that its the dazzle with the USB thats the bottleneck....i have had this problem with my Yamaha CDR before, and it got better as they released better drivers for the external USB box i had the yamaha in....

if dazzle released better drivers then u may be in luck, but i doubt that its even USB2 connection for the dazzle , is it???

the better option would have been to get the Hollywood bridge from dazzle as well, which i have and will play with it some more...it goes from analogue to DV and you get a bigger file as trade off....