Wierd vid problem

[Swoop]

Okay i did my first 7 hour ripping session yesterday in Gnot... first time in that proggie.

I must admit i'm impressed with the detail of the settings you get there as opposed to say X-Mpeg and such :D

Anyways my problem. The movie is Enemy at the gates (pal region 2).
Everything ripped fine, and got no error (that i can find) during encoding.
And i did get a 729 MB file with sound and such. The quality of the pic looks okay too, BUT thats the problem so to speak.

When i playback the movie it is very choppy, like it cant decide which frame to show.. it's like it's playing multiple frames over each other .. all in all very very unviewable.. and wierd.

Never seen this problem before though...any help would be appriciated. I can even (with some little guidance) clip out a peice of the file and let one of you guys take a look at it...

Here is the log i found:

11-08-2003 00:46:34: Job "First Rip" started.

o Xvid - First Pass: G:\DVD\Projects\ENEMYATTHEGATES_VTS_03_PGC1\ENEMYATTHEGATES.avs
o Xvid - Second Pass: G:\DVD\Projects\ENEMYATTHEGATES_VTS_03_PGC1\ENEMYATTHEGATES.avs
o Mux Audio.
End of Job 1 (First Rip).
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Gordian Knot -
Encoding Job Data:

Type: EncXvid_All
Number: 1
Name: First Rip
Platform: WinXP (5.1.2600).2

Files:
VirtualDubModExe: C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\VirtualDubMod\VirtualDubMod.exe
NandubExe: C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\nandub\Nandub.exe
AviFinal: G:\DVD\Projects\ENEMYATTHEGATES_VTS_03_PGC1\ENEMYATTHEGATES.avi
AviMovie: G:\DVD\Projects\ENEMYATTHEGATES_VTS_03_PGC1\ENEMYATTHEGATES_Movie.avi
AviCredits: G:\DVD\Projects\ENEMYATTHEGATES_VTS_03_PGC1\ENEMYATTHEGATES_Credits.avi
MovieFS: G:\DVD\Projects\ENEMYATTHEGATES_VTS_03_PGC1\ENEMYATTHEGATES.avs
CreditsFS:
Log : G:\DVD\Projects\ENEMYATTHEGATES_VTS_03_PGC1\ENEMYATTHEGATES.log
Stats: G:\DVD\Projects\ENEMYATTHEGATES_VTS_03_PGC1\ENEMYATTHEGATES.stats
Ecf : G:\DVD\Projects\ENEMYATTHEGATES_VTS_03_PGC1\ENEMYATTHEGATES.ecf

Options:
Quality/DRF: 0
CreditsStart: 0
UseEcf: 1
CreditsIVTC: 0
CreditsAppend: 0
DeleteInterm.: 0
EnforceBitrate: 0
AntiShit: 0

Calculator:
VideoSize: 587252 kbyte.
Audio1Size: 117656 kbyte.
Audio2Size: 0 kbyte.
Overhead: 11890 kbyte.
AviSize: 716800 kbyte (700 mbyte).
FilesSize: 0 kbyte.
TotalSize: 716800 kbyte (700 mbyte).
Interleaving: vbrmp3
Bitrate: 637 k(=1000)Bits/s
Frames: 188725
FPS: 25.000
Duration: 25:49
Quality: 0.164 bits/(pixel*frame).
CompCheck3: 0.000 bits/(pixel*frame).
CompCheck5: 0.000 bits/(pixel*frame).
Resolution: 608 x 256

Audio 1:
Mode: Just Mux Source File.
SourceFile: G:\DVD\Projects\ENEMYATTHEGATES_VTS_03_PGC1\ENEMYATTHEGATES Track 1 English DELAY 0ms.mp3
WavFile: G:\DVD\Projects\ENEMYATTHEGATES_VTS_03_PGC1\ENEMYATTHEGATES Track 1 English DELAY 0ms.wav
Mp3File: G:\DVD\Projects\ENEMYATTHEGATES_VTS_03_PGC1\ENEMYATTHEGATES Track 1 English DELAY 0ms_1.mp3
Azid:
Lame:
Delay: 0
Interval: 1
Preload: 500
Mux: 1
Recalc: 1
DeleteWav: 1

Audio 2:
none.

00:46:34: Audio 1, determined: 117656 kb
00:46:34: Audio 1, calc: 117656 kb
00:46:34: New Bitrate for Movie = 637 k(=1000)Bits/s

Adding this script to C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\VirtualDubMod\LastJob.vcf :

// $job "Xvid - First Pass"
// $input "G:\DVD\Projects\ENEMYATTHEGATES_VTS_03_PGC1\ENEMYATTHEGATES.avs"
// $output "G:\DVD\Projects\ENEMYATTHEGATES_VTS_03_PGC1\ENEMYATTHEGATES_Movie.avi"
// $state 0
// $start_time 0 0
// $end_time 0 0
// $script

VirtualDub.Open("G:\\DVD\\Projects\\ENEMYATTHEGATES_VTS_03_PGC1\\ENEMYATTHEGATES.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetDepth(24,24);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(1);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression(0x64697678,0,10000,0);
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("G:\\DVD\\Projects\\ENEMYATTHEGATES_VTS_03_PGC1\\ENEMYATTHEGATES_Movie.avi");
VirtualDub.Close();

// $endjob
//
//--------------------------------------------------
// $done

00:46:34: Started Xvid - First Pass: G:\DVD\Projects\ENEMYATTHEGATES_VTS_03_PGC1\ENEMYATTHEGATES.avs
04:28:28: Finished Xvid - First Pass: Duration: 3 hours, 41 minutes, 53 seconds.
04:28:28: Trying to open Log-file.
04:28:28: Success: Log-file open.
04:28:28: Encoded: 188724 Frames.
04:28:28: Speed: 14.175 Frames per Second.
04:28:28: New target size = 587253 Kb

Adding this script to C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\VirtualDubMod\LastJob.vcf :

// $job "Xvid - Second Pass"
// $input "G:\DVD\Projects\ENEMYATTHEGATES_VTS_03_PGC1\ENEMYATTHEGATES.avs"
// $output "G:\DVD\Projects\ENEMYATTHEGATES_VTS_03_PGC1\ENEMYATTHEGATES_Movie.avi"
// $state 0
// $start_time 0 0
// $end_time 0 0
// $script

VirtualDub.Open("G:\\DVD\\Projects\\ENEMYATTHEGATES_VTS_03_PGC1\\ENEMYATTHEGATES.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetDepth(24,24);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(1);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression(0x64697678,0,10000,0);
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("G:\\DVD\\Projects\\ENEMYATTHEGATES_VTS_03_PGC1\\ENEMYATTHEGATES_Movie.avi");
VirtualDub.Close();

// $endjob
//
//--------------------------------------------------
// $done

04:28:28: Started Xvid - Second Pass: G:\DVD\Projects\ENEMYATTHEGATES_VTS_03_PGC1\ENEMYATTHEGATES.avs
07:58:49: Finished Xvid - Second Pass: Duration: 3 hours, 30 minutes, 20 seconds.
07:58:49: Speed: 14.953 Frames per Second.

Adding this script to C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\VirtualDubMod\LastJob.vcf :

// $job "DivX5 Append"
// $input "G:\DVD\Projects\ENEMYATTHEGATES_VTS_03_PGC1\ENEMYATTHEGATES_Movie.avi"
// $output "G:\DVD\Projects\ENEMYATTHEGATES_VTS_03_PGC1\ENEMYATTHEGATES.avi"
// $state 0
// $start_time 0 0
// $end_time 0 0
// $script

VirtualDub.Open("G:\\DVD\\Projects\\ENEMYATTHEGATES_VTS_03_PGC1\\ENEMYATTHEGATES_Movie.avi",0,0);
VirtualDub.RemoveInputStreams();
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetSource("G:\\DVD\\Projects\\ENEMYATTHEGATES_VTS_03_PGC1\\ENEMYATTHEGATES Track 1 English DELAY 0ms.mp3",0x00000202,1);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetInterleave(1,500,1,0,0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetClipMode(1,1);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetConversion(0,0,0,0,0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetVolume();
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetCompression();
VirtualDub.video.SetDepth(24,24);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression();
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("G:\\DVD\\Projects\\ENEMYATTHEGATES_VTS_03_PGC1\\ENEMYATTHEGATES.avi");
VirtualDub.Close();

// $endjob
//
//--------------------------------------------------
// $done

07:58:49: Started Muxing Audio.: G:\DVD\Projects\ENEMYATTHEGATES_VTS_03_PGC1\ENEMYATTHEGATES_Movie.avi
08:00:15: Finished Muxing Audio.: Duration: 1 minute, 26 seconds.

08:00:15: Done.
08:00:15: Movie = G:\DVD\Projects\ENEMYATTHEGATES_VTS_03_PGC1\ENEMYATTHEGATES.avi
Total Encoding Time: 7 hours, 13 minutes, 41 seconds.
11-08-2003 08:00:15: Job "First Rip" finished.

[jggimi]

Playback problems can have many different causes, and can occur without having anything wrong with the encoded file. It could be the player you are using, it could be background tasks, it could be your video driver. (It could even be AVI interleaving, but with MP3 audio, the defaults you used should work fine.)

First ... Try a different AVI player. Microsoft's Windows Media Player 6.4 can be used to determine if it is a player problem, and is more stable than their newer versions. It's included automatically with every version of Windows, but you have to run it manually. Start...Run... and then type in mplayer2 -- this is the same player Gknot uses if you press the "Preview" button on the "Save & Encode" window.

I doubt it's interleaving, but you can check that by playing the ENEMYATTHEGATES_Movie.avi file, which is video only. If it plays smoothly, then you may be having trouble caused by interleaving the audio track...or possibly your conversion to .mp3, which you apparently did outside of Gknot, since you're "just muxing" an .mp3 file.

CPU consumption can be a factor during playback. Shutting off codec post-processing, and eliminating background tasks sometimes helps. A great many people use ffdshow (http://www.doom9.org/Soft21/Filters/ffdshow-20021213.exe) for MPEG-4 playback; it's a playback-only codec that can do DivX, XviD, and many other MPEG-4 variants; it often uses less CPU than the standard codecs.

[Looking through the log, all I can see is a low bitrate (637 kbps) with a relatively high resolution (608x256). Your relative quality is a low 0.164 bits/pixels*frames. Doom9 recommends not falling below 0.17 with XviD, but if you're satisfied with the quality, that's fine.]

[Swoop]

Thx for the tips...

It's not the player, and i doubt it being codecs or cpu consumption..

I tried ripping a trailer from the same dvd (smaller size quicker results hehe) and it worked out just fine.. wierd huh.
Also the movie didnt work without sound either...

But i'm gonna give it another go now, and see what happens.. perhaps it was some codec setting that i accidently turned on/off hehe :D

Anyways will update later tonight when it's finished in like 7 hours :D