newbie encoding sound problem

[commando]

Hi everyone

After a week of trying this myself, i'm looking for a little help. I've just started trying to back up my DVDs, and i'm having a bit of trouble - the video comes out great, but no matter what I try I can't get the sound into the encoded DVD. The vob files are on my disk, along with the other files streamripper puts there. They play fine, with sound, using PowerDVD software player.

I've been trying for a week or so now. I've read everything I could find on these forums, and anywhere else I could find. I've followed two different GK guides I found on the net very closely, with the same results each time.

The only thing that I do that's different is when I choose the mp3 bitrate then hit select and choose my ac3 file, the size I entered for the audio changes to whatever the software wants - whereas I expected it to stay at what I set.

I'm on Windows XP SP, GK 0.28.5 (I downloaded the big pack with all the bundled software), DivX encoder 5.0.5 (standard/free, not Pro), and my machine has PowerDVD software player on it.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

[killingspree]

Originally posted by commando

The only thing that I do that's different is when I choose the mp3 bitrate then hit select and choose my ac3 file, the size I entered for the audio changes to whatever the software wants - whereas I expected it to stay at what I set.

hi and welcome to the forum,
sorry but it is not totally clear what is going wrong in your process for me.

do you have an ac3 file and want to convert it to mp3
Or
do you have an ac3 file and want to just mux it as is?

What you have to do to convert the ac3 to mp3 is:
in the gknot bitrate tab enter the bitrate that you want lateron for your final mp3 - let's say 128 kbit. keep in mind that this is only taken into account for calculations and not for the final compression.

then after hitting 'save & encode' go to the 'audio 1' tab, load the file by hitting the 'select' button and then tick the option you want (e.g mp3 variable bitrate 128 kbit)
then go back to the divx5 or xvid tab and hit 'addjob'

if you want to just mux the ac3 you have to load the ac3 in the bitrate tab under audio 1 by hitting select and navigating to the file and then after hitting 'save encode' select 'just mux' after loading the audio file again!

hope this helps
steVe

[commando]

Thanks killingspree

You're right, that post wasn't very clear. What i'm essentially trying to do is get my dvd to encode with sound - for now I don't mind if it's ac3 or mp3 sound. Once I get it to work i'll worry aboutt that!

I have been following the process you outlined below. The only difference is that in addition to choosing the audio file after i've hit "save and encode" is that I also choose my audio on the GK bitrate tab - I select the bitrate I want, then hit the 'select' button underneath it. I've tried selecting my audio within the GK bitrate tab and after hitting "save and encode", but nothing seems to help.

I've tried many things, and following many guides, and i've gotten to the point that I think it's a configuration problem. Either that or i'm doing something quite stupid with GK. Can anyone think of any configuration settings that could prevent audio being encoded/mux'd into the final avi file?

Here are links to screenshots of how I set up GK. In this test i'm just trying to get the audio to work, I know the video settings are terrible:
- http://www.geocities.com/p45commando/gk1.jpg
- http://www.geocities.com/p45commando/gk2.jpg
- http://www.geocities.com/p45commando/gk3.jpg

Thanks for any suggestions anyone has :)

[manono]

Hi-

You might try to make the audio outside of GKnot by using either HeadAC3he (http://www.doom9.org/mp3-hac3.htm), or BeSweet (http://www.doom9.org/ac3tomp3.htm). Then you can just fill in the audio size and have GKnot just mux when the video encoding is finished. Or if for some reason GKnot won't mux it, you can mux it yourself using VDubMod/Nandub. And then you'll know that it is possible to get audio inside your movie. And then you can go back to figuring out the problem with doing it from inside of GKnot.

I know that doesn't solve your basic problem, but killingspree already said how to do it, and you're already doing it. And I can't see that you're doing anything obviously wrong. But I don't know how to make your screenshots work either. :(

[commando]

Originally posted by manono
Or if for some reason GKnot won't mux it, you can mux it yourself using VDubMod/Nandub. And then you'll know that it is possible to get audio inside your movie. And then you can go back to figuring out the problem with doing it from inside of GKnot.

I'll give it a go - I had to upgrade the version of VDubMod that came with GK because it was missing the audio drop own menu! Now I just have to work out how to use it... shouldn't be hard hopefully.

Originally posted by manono
I know that doesn't solve your basic problem, but killingspree already said how to do it, and you're already doing it. And I can't see that you're doing anything obviously wrong. But I don't know how to make your screenshots work either. :( [/B]

I hope you mean you can see my screenshots and they look ok ;)


Originally posted by a gorilla riding a tricycle
Ug ug ug.
[/B]

Incidentally here's another unrelated question. I have an avi movie that my digital camera created, and I want to DivX encode it to make it smaller so I can email it. Does anyone got any pointers about where to start looking to do this? Or a piece of software that will do it?

Thanks everyone :)

[jggimi]

If nothing else, try copying and pasting a recent _Gknot.log file here. That will show us the settings and files used for sound.

[manono]

Hi-

...it was missing the audio drop own menu!

In the version I have, you go Streams-Stream List-Add to open the audio. Then after it's open, right click on it if you need to make interleaving or delay adjustments.

I hope you mean you can see my screenshots and they look ok

No, I couldn't see them at all. When I click on the links it says "Page temporarily unavailable for viewing", or something like that.

And as jggimi said, a log file might be helpful.

Does anyone got any pointers about where to start looking to do this?

Since GKnot will open .avis, you should be able to use it. There are some differences from encoding DVDs. Instead of choosing 4:3 or 16:9, you tick Display AR and set it properly. For example, if your .avi is 640x480, and the AR is correct, then you set the DAR for 1.333. Then you can adjust the resolution and crop (if necessary) from there.

[commando]

Ok, here's my gknot.log file... I got an error from virtual dub after it'd finished, "Member 'RemoveInputStreams' not found. I got a really nice picture, but again no sound... any ideas welcome :)


4/08/2003 12:31:20 p.m.: Job "Movie 1" started.

o Transcode source -> MP3: C:\DVDTest\4_8_2003 AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3
o DivX5-First Pass: C:\DVDTest\4_8_2003.avs
o DivX5 - Pass 2: C:\DVDTest\4_8_2003.avs
o Mux Audio.
o Splitting final movie.
End of Job 1 (Movie 1).
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Gordian Knot -
Encoding Job Data:

Type: EncD5_All
Number: 1
Name: Movie 1
Platform: WinXP (5.1.2600).2

Files:
VirtualDubModExe: C:\Program Files\VirtualDub-1.5.4\VirtualDub.exe
NandubExe: C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~2\nandub\Nandub.exe
AviFinal: C:\DVDTest\4_8_2003.avi
AviMovie: C:\DVDTest\4_8_2003_Movie.avi
AviCredits: C:\DVDTest\4_8_2003_Credits.avi
MovieFS: C:\DVDTest\4_8_2003.avs
CreditsFS:
Log : C:\DVDTest\4_8_2003.log
Stats: C:\DVDTest\4_8_2003.stats
Ecf : C:\DVDTest\4_8_2003.ecf

Options:
Quality/DRF: 0
CreditsStart: 0
UseEcf: 1
CreditsIVTC: 0
CreditsAppend: 0
DeleteInterm.: 0
EnforceBitrate: 0
AntiShit: 0
Split final file at CD size:650

Calculator:
VideoSize: 184689 kbyte.
Audio1Size: 69312 kbyte.
Audio2Size: 0 kbyte.
Overhead: 1998 kbyte.
AviSize: 256000 kbyte (250 mbyte).
FilesSize: 0 kbyte.
TotalSize: 256000 kbyte (250 mbyte).
Interleaving: vbrmp3
Bitrate: 1194 k(=1000)Bits/s
Frames: 31684
FPS: 25.000
Duration: 021:7
Quality: 0.327 bits/(pixel*frame).
CompCheck3: 0.000 bits/(pixel*frame).
CompCheck5: 0.556 bits/(pixel*frame).
Resolution: 608 x 240

Audio 1:
Mode: ac3 -> mp3
SourceFile: C:\DVDTest\4_8_2003 AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3
WavFile: C:\DVDTest\4_8_2003 AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.wav
Mp3File: C:\DVDTest\4_8_2003 AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.mp3
Azid: -c normal
Lame: -h --abr 128
Delay: 0
Interval: 1
Preload: 500
Mux: 1
Recalc: 1
DeleteWav: 1

Audio 2:
none.


12:31:20 p.m.: Started Transcoding Audio.

12:31:20 p.m.: Using "BeSweet" to transcode C:\DVDTest\4_8_2003 AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3
CommandLine: C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~2\BeSweet.exe -core( -input "C:\DVDTest\4_8_2003 AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.ac3" -output "C:\DVDTest\4_8_2003 AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.mp3" -logfile "C:\DVDTest\4_8_2003 AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.log" ) -ota( -hybridgain ) -azid( -c normal ) -lame( -h --abr 128 ) -profile( Gordian Knot 0.28 )
12:33:47 p.m.: Finished. Duration: 2 minutes, 26 seconds.

12:33:47 p.m.: Audio Done.
12:33:47 p.m.: MP3-File-Size is 17987 kb.
12:33:47 p.m.: Audio 1, determined: 17987 kb
12:33:47 p.m.: Audio 1, calc: 69312 kb
12:33:47 p.m.: New Bitrate for Movie = 1526 k(=1000)Bits/s

Adding this script to C:\Program Files\VirtualDub-1.5.4\LastJob.vcf :

// $job "DivX5-First Pass"
// $input "C:\DVDTest\4_8_2003.avs"
// $output "C:\DVDTest\4_8_2003_Movie.avi"
// $state 0
// $start_time 0 0
// $end_time 0 0
// $script

VirtualDub.Open("C:\\DVDTest\\4_8_2003.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetDepth(24,24);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(1);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression(0x78766964,0,10000,0);
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("C:\\DVDTest\\4_8_2003_Movie.avi");
VirtualDub.Close();

// $endjob
//
//--------------------------------------------------
// $done

12:33:47 p.m.: Started DivX5-First Pass: C:\DVDTest\4_8_2003.avs
12:52:14 p.m.: Finished DivX5-First Pass: Duration: 18 minutes, 26 seconds.
12:52:14 p.m.: Trying to open Log-file.
12:52:14 p.m.: Error: Could not open C:\DVDTest\vdenc.log
12:52:14 p.m.: Error: Could not count encoded Frames.
12:52:14 p.m.: Speed: 10283.860 Frames per Second.
12:52:14 p.m.: WARNING: Number of counted frames differs from settings!
12:52:14 p.m.: WARNING: Settings: 31684
12:52:14 p.m.: WARNING: Counted: 0
12:52:14 p.m.: WARNING: Difference: 31684
12:52:14 p.m.: Correcting Bitrate...
12:52:14 p.m.: Original Bitrate = 1526 k(=1000)Bits/s
12:52:14 p.m.: Error: Correction impossible.
12:52:14 p.m.: Now encoding at 1526 k(=1000)Bits/s

Adding this script to C:\Program Files\VirtualDub-1.5.4\LastJob.vcf :

// $job "DivX5-Second Pass"
// $input "C:\DVDTest\4_8_2003.avs"
// $output "C:\DVDTest\4_8_2003_Movie.avi"
// $state 0
// $start_time 0 0
// $end_time 0 0
// $script

VirtualDub.Open("C:\\DVDTest\\4_8_2003.avs",0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetDepth(24,24);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(1);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression(0x78766964,0,10000,0);
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("C:\\DVDTest\\4_8_2003_Movie.avi");
VirtualDub.Close();

// $endjob
//
//--------------------------------------------------
// $done

12:52:14 p.m.: Started DivX5 - Pass: 2: C:\DVDTest\4_8_2003.avs
1:08:11 p.m.: Finished DivX5 - Pass: 2: Duration: 15 minutes, 57 seconds.
1:08:11 p.m.: Speed: 0.000 Frames per Second.

Adding this script to C:\Program Files\VirtualDub-1.5.4\LastJob.vcf :

// $job "DivX5 Append"
// $input "C:\DVDTest\4_8_2003_Movie.avi"
// $output "C:\DVDTest\4_8_2003.avi"
// $state 0
// $start_time 0 0
// $end_time 0 0
// $script

VirtualDub.Open("C:\\DVDTest\\4_8_2003_Movie.avi",0,0);
VirtualDub.RemoveInputStreams();
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetSource("C:\\DVDTest\\4_8_2003 AC3 T01 3_2ch 448Kbps DELAY 0ms.mp3",0x00000202,1);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetInterleave(1,500,1,0,0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetClipMode(1,1);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetConversion(0,0,0,0,0);
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetVolume();
VirtualDub.stream[0].SetCompression();
VirtualDub.video.SetDepth(24,24);
VirtualDub.video.SetMode(0);
VirtualDub.video.SetFrameRate(0,1);
VirtualDub.video.SetIVTC(0,0,-1,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetRange(0,0);
VirtualDub.video.SetCompression();
VirtualDub.video.filters.Clear();
VirtualDub.subset.Delete();
VirtualDub.SaveAVI("C:\\DVDTest\\4_8_2003.avi");
VirtualDub.Close();

// $endjob
//
//--------------------------------------------------
// $done

1:08:11 p.m.: Started Muxing Audio.: C:\DVDTest\4_8_2003_Movie.avi
1:10:24 p.m.: Finished Muxing Audio.: Duration: 2 minutes, 13 seconds.
1:10:24 p.m.: Error analysing file " "C:\DVDTest\4_8_2003.avi" " for splitting

1:10:24 p.m.: Done.
1:10:24 p.m.: Movie = C:\DVDTest\4_8_2003.avi
Total Encoding Time: 39 minutes, 4 seconds.
4/08/2003 1:10:24 p.m.: Job "Movie 1" finished.
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

[commando]

Originally posted by manono

I hope you mean you can see my screenshots and they look ok


I fixed the screen shots, they're now linked from http://www.geocities.com/p45commando/index.htm

[jggimi]

From your log:12:33:47 p.m.: Audio Done.
12:33:47 p.m.: MP3-File-Size is 17987 kb.
12:33:47 p.m.: Audio 1, determined: 17987 kb
12:33:47 p.m.: Audio 1, calc: 69312 kb
12:33:47 p.m.: New Bitrate for Movie = 1526 k(=1000)Bits/sYou apparently selected your .ac3 file in the "size" section of the Audio A box of the bitrate tab. The ac3 file is 448kbps ac3. You then converted the audio to 128kbps mp3. This reduced the size of the audio soundtrack from 69312 to 17987KB. But because you selected the .ac3 file as your size, your bitrate calculations will be estimated incorrectly. It will throw off b/p*f values and therefore compression test percentages. It doesn't have anything to do with your problem, but I noted it as a procedural problem that may cause you grief later.

Instead, merely select "128" as the kb/s and Gknot will estimate a size close to what the .mp3 soundtrack will be. Select the .ac3 file only when muxing ac3 sound.

You should have a playable .mp3 file at this point, containing your soundtrack.12:33:47 p.m.: Started DivX5-First Pass: C:\DVDTest\4_8_2003.avs
12:52:14 p.m.: Finished DivX5-First Pass: Duration: 18 minutes, 26 seconds.
12:52:14 p.m.: Trying to open Log-file.
12:52:14 p.m.: Error: Could not open C:\DVDTest\vdenc.log
12:52:14 p.m.: Error: Could not count encoded Frames.
12:52:14 p.m.: Speed: 10283.860 Frames per Second.
12:52:14 p.m.: WARNING: Number of counted frames differs from settings!
12:52:14 p.m.: WARNING: Settings: 31684
12:52:14 p.m.: WARNING: Counted: 0
12:52:14 p.m.: WARNING: Difference: 31684You're having a DivX 5 codec failure. No output was found from the first pass. There are a number of possible reasons. Please see this sticky thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=48936) and go through the list, in order to elimate the cause. You may be having this problem possibly because you are using a nonstandard VdubMod, as you described. It is recommended to use the packaged versions of software with Gknot, as the development team has integrated and tested with those versions only.

Based on this log, I cannot understand how you are able to get good video, as you reported, unless that good video was produced using the packaged VdubMod version. Note this from your second pass:
1:08:11 p.m.: Speed: 0.000 Frames per Second.

[commando]

Thanks jggimi, everyone, esp manono who suggested using vdub manually

Using VDubMod manually i've managed to mux a cbr mp3 with the avi :) :D Now I just have to work out why it isn't working with GK...

jggimi, I never got that error message before today, it could have something to do with using a different version of VDubMod. I'll re-run the GK soon and see if it fixes the problem, otherwise i'll look at the log myself, or post it for further help.

Originally posted by manono
Since GKnot will open .avis, you should be able to use it. There are some differences from encoding DVDs. Instead of choosing 4:3 or 16:9, you tick Display AR and set it properly. For example, if your .avi is 640x480, and the AR is correct, then you set the DAR for 1.333. Then you can adjust the resolution and crop (if necessary) from there.

Gk couldn't open it - it said "File is not a valid dvd2avi project (v1.76), avi or avs file!". I used VirtualDubMod, and that worked perfectly! Only thing I have to work out now is what program to use to reduce the frame size from 640*480 down to something smaller... :)

[commando]

Ok, one more question...

After I hit the "save and encode" button, I choose the audio file I want to use. I want to use mp3, but i'm choosing the ac3 file as the mp3 hasn't been created yet - besweet creates it after I start the encoding process.

Am I doing this correctly? Or should I be running besweet myself first to create the mp3 file, then telling GK to use it in here, or am I doing it right?

[killingspree]

you're doing it right :)

" Only thing I have to work out now is what program to use to reduce the frame size from 640*480 down to something smaller..."

you can do that in either gknot or in virtualdub(mod). but be aware of the fact that if you resize you have to reencode the video!!

steVe

[commando]

Ok, i've finally got it to work, kindof! What I do is after I hit "save and encode", I select my ac3 audio track, then encode that to a cbr mp3. Once that's done I hit select again, select my mp3, and then hit encode on the video tab. The finished AVI has sound :)

I'm wondering why I need to do this step, if no-one else does?

I'm just running another test now, using the ac3 file as the source, to see what the log file says...

[manono]

Hi-

Making progress, I see. That's why I mentioned muxing it yourself. That way you'll have something to show for your efforts, so you don't get discouraged. :) jggimi may have something about using the VDubMod that comes with GKnot. So, put the original one back, or reinstall the Pack that includes it. You can still keep the other one if you like. Just put it somewhere else. I have about 4 different versions floating around my computer.

Gk couldn't open it

That's odd. Must be some weird kind of .avi. But I wouldn't know about that. That's more len0x's (the developer) department, and he's on vacation for another 10 days or so. But you can still get the correct resolution and crop values (if needed). Just follow my instructions in the last post. As for creating the .avs; just modify another one you have lying around. Fill in the AviSource (instead of MpegSource) line and the modified resolution and crop.

Am I doing this correctly?

Yes you are. GKnot uses BeSweet to create the audio. jggimi's point earlier was not to fill in the AC3 size back in the Bitrate Tab. Fill in the final MP3 Bitrate instead (in this case 128).

[commando]

Well don't ask me why, but it's working fine now. Encoded in one step, giving the ac3 source audio file. One thing I did do today is install the GK codec pack, whereas before I installed DivX 5 manually. I did an encode after that and it failed, whereas now it works.

I noticed that now VirtualDub starts a third step that mux's the audio in, whereas before it didn't even start that step.

Many thanks to everyone who helped me, now I can set my PC up to encode for a day or two and get rid of many GB of vob files on my hard drive :)

[jggimi]

If this is the first time you've installed the "pack" then the reason for your problems has probably been due to missing software, such as AviSynth.

Let me just clarify mp3 audio procedures in Gknot, as there still seems to be some confusion.[list=1] R4R or DVD2AVI are used to demux the Dolby Digital (.ac3) soundtrack.

On the Bitrate tab, estimate the mp3 filesize by selecting the bitrate of the not yet existing .mp3 file. If you are following Doom9's Gknot guide, he recommends a bitrate of 128 kbps, and the guide shows him using the 128 value, as manono and I described.

Select the proper AVI overhead (1x vbr-mp3), as you've been doing.

When adding a job (such as after pressing Save&Encode), be sure to select the Audio 1 tab, and select the .ac3 file for transcoding. This will be the first (and only) place you will select the .ac3 file. Then Select your mp3 transcoding parameters, as you've been doing, including the appropriate bitrate.[/list=1]

[commando]

Thanks jggimi. Perhaps i'll write a "Gordian Knot for Dummies" guide, or put my own suggestions for absolute beginners into an existing FAQ. A guide written by a newbie for newbies might be helpful. btw i'm not a dummy, just new to dvd/gk... ;)

[nate klefsas]

at first i had troubles, but after messing around for a while i relized i had to open the file my ac3 was in, "f:/ronin/video_ts and then select .ac3 in the drop down window tab to the right, theres a little drop down arrow, cant believe i could'ent figure that out.then just select the .ac3 file name you just mad with dvd to avi. but once i figured that out after a while, it became extreamly easy to make audio, cause all you had to do after you found your ac3 audio you only have to select cofferscuffs_mp3@136kbs and then click on the ac3 to mp3 box that is green in the right corner and lights up when you put the mouse on it and after a while, about as long as the movie would normaly take to play, you will have a mp3 file that you shouldent have any problems with useing in g-knot. then all you have to do is go to the bitrate tab and hit select under audio a and open up your mp3 file and and then have all your other setting set up like the doom guide tells you to sept the fallow itu-r bt.601 standard under options so the movie will be the resolution you select and not a preset one and it should work. also check to see that you have besweet.gui select in your program paths tab. also make sure you set avi.synth plugin set to c:/programs/gordianknot, i think not having that selected caused some probs for me before and possibly others too.
making audio is easy thanks to every one who developed all the programs necessary to make making divx video easy for all of us computer eliterate fools who wouldent have the slightest idea how to put an entire divx together and make it work and look good unless we had a program that is as easy to use a g-knot

[commando]

Nate, your procedure sounds more complex than what I do. All I have to do to get the audio to encode now is:
- on the GK bitrate tab, near the bottom left, select 128kbps (or whatever rate you want)
- on the GK bitrate tab, just below the middle, to the right slightly, select vbr mp3, or whatever you want there
-on the DivX5 settings, on the "Audio1" tab, select the ac3 audio.

Gk then converts the ac3 file to an mp3 file for you, then multiplexes it with the video after the divx compression is done.

Hope that help!

[nate klefsas]

that sound less time consuming and it would probly work better. does it add more time to the total conversion time? usually takes me an hour and a half to two hours two hours for first pass, no idea about second. i have a Pentium 4, windows xp home, and 512 sdram. I would think it would take just as long as useing besweet gui, or would it be? does g-knot use besweet gui to encode or the other besweet with a picture of some dudes headfor an icon? and since were on the topic, will i get surround sound or just two channel doing it my way or yours? can i even make it surround sound? what do i select?

[killingspree]

Originally posted by nate klefsas
that sound less time consuming and it would probly work better. does it add more time to the total conversion time? usually takes me an hour and a half to two hours two hours for first pass, no idea about second. i have a Pentium 4, windows xp home, and 512 sdram.
should take exactly as long as besweet gui :) both utilize the same binary, besweet.exe !

does g-knot use besweet gui to encode or the other besweet with a picture of some dudes headfor an icon?
you mean BeSplit. No this proggy is just for the creation of dummy files... oh and this Dude is Shakespear :P

and since were on the topic, will i get surround sound or just two channel doing it my way or yours? can i even make it surround sound? what do i select?

sorry, mp3 is only stereo (=two channel). if you want to have 5.1 i recommend you just use the ac3 sound. you can transcode it to a lower br using besweet_gui too :)

hope this helps
steVe

[jggimi]

...sorry, mp3 is only stereo (=two channel). Not quite. Using Azid/Lame or BeSweet, as best I recall, the surround sound should be ProLogic encoded as part of the stereo signal. If you have a Dolby ProLogic decoder, some of the surround sound signal can be recovered. Recent versions allow command options for ProLogic II as well, though I only have a ProLogic (I) decoder and am not cognizant of the differences. In my case, the two rear channels are combined into a single channel, so both rear speakers produce the same sounds. There is nowhere near the same separation one gets from true 6 channel sound, but there is certainly enough for surround feel.

[killingspree]

@jggimi: thanks for the clarification :)

@nate: if you have a decent soundcard you can also enable stereo to 5.1 upmix. on my Audigy II this sounds really nice...

steVe

[nate klefsas]

will setting my azid audio in the audio 1 tab under encode with a setting of custom mp3 and azid setting of -L -3db -s surround -c normal or -s surround2 -c normal, of the 2 which is better? would selecting dolby digital downmix under audio in dvd to avi make a difference? or is it best to do a stereo to 5.1 upmix on Audigy II, by the way what is audigy II, an audio encoding program or is it a sound card? if its a program can you explain to me how to use it and where to get it cause I believe you when you say it sounds really great. I searched it and all i found was audio cards, which are nicer then the one i have, a lot nicer!
mine is on my motherboard.

[commando]

Sorry Nate, i'm a beginner myself, so I have no idea. Hopefully someone else will answer your question tho :)

[nate klefsas]

I think selecting -s surround2 -c normal as your audio format when you go to encode allows for their to be surround sound. I'll have to try it out to see if that true

[nate klefsas]

i'M JUST USEING AC3 NOW, ITS THE REAL THING, DOLBY SURROUND SOUND

[killingspree]

good idea ;)

oh btw, pls don't use all CAPTIAL letters as some forum members, mostly the ones that have been around a little longer will interpret this as shouting and do not appreciate being shouted at :)

thanks
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