interlaced problem

[joshyg2]

I have never has this problem before until now, I am trying to backup a copy of 'Billy Connolly LIVE 2002' to SVCD using DVD2SVCD.

The source is Pure Interlaced and I want to keep it that way, so I set up the encoder to encode interlaced. First I tryed Canopus Procoder, then I tryed CCE, but I still got the same problem.

The problem is that, when playing it back on PowerDVD or my TV I still see artifacts and combing. This souldn't happen, because the TV is Interlaced and PowerDVD applys Bob.

I used SimpleResize so that souldn't be the problem.

I have uploaded 15 second clips for the source and the encoded video:

http://www.angelfire.com/retro/kerekes/source.mpg
http://www.angelfire.com/retro/kerekes/encoded.mpg

Also here is a extract of my log:

WNASPI32.DLL 0.0.0.0
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- 26/07/2003 8:25:27 PM
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2SVCD ver. 1.1.3 build 2
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Initializing
Initializing finished.

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- 26/07/2003 8:25:30 PM
- Free on drive D: 10823.22 mb
- Internal rip
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Preparing vobfiles to be ripped:
- F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_04_1.vob
- F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_04_2.vob
- F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_04_3.vob
- F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_04_4.vob

Ripping: F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_04_1.vob
Ripping: F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_04_2.vob
Ripping: F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_04_3.vob
Ripping: F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_04_4.vob
Ripping finished. Speed: 6918

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- 26/07/2003 8:35:37 PM
- DVD2AVI
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Creating DVD2AVI INI file:
- C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.INI

Variable settings:
iDCT_Algorithm: 32-bit SSE MMX

Executing DVD2AVI.
Executing DVD2AVI. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.exe" -CS=2 -YR=1 -EXIT -OF=[D:\Temp (DO NOT DELETE)\video creation\DVD2AVI_Project_file] -IF=[D:\Temp (DO NOT DELETE)\video creation\VTS_04_1.vob,D:\Temp (DO NOT DELETE)\video creation\VTS_04_2.vob,D:\Temp (DO NOT DELETE)\video creation\VTS_04_3.vob,D:\Temp (DO NOT DELETE)\video creation\VTS_04_4.vob]
Framerate: 25000
DVD2AVI processing done.

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- 26/07/2003 8:38:12 PM
- Free on drive D: 6728.63 mb
- AUDIO Extraction
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Found AC3 stream id: 0x80
Filename: D:\Temp (DO NOT DELETE)\video creation\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Audio1 delay: -80 ms
Audio extraction finished.

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- 26/07/2003 8:40:48 PM
- Free on drive D: 6564.61 mb
- AUDIO conversion
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Encoding Audio. Filename: D:\Temp (DO NOT DELETE)\video creation\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Executing BeSweet. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "D:\Temp (DO NOT DELETE)\video creation\Extracted_audio_1.ac3" -output "D:\TEMP(D~1\VIDEOC~1\Encoded_audio_1.mp2" -logfile "D:\TEMP(D~1\VIDEOC~1\Encoded_audio_1.log" ) -azid( -L -3db -c normal -s stereo -g max ) -ota( -d -80 ) -shibatch( --rate 44100 ) -2lame( -e -b 160 -m s )
Audio conversion of D:\Temp (DO NOT DELETE)\video creation\Extracted_audio_1.ac3 finished.

Audio conversion finished.

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- 26/07/2003 8:53:43 PM
- Free on drive D: 6447.42 mb
- Converting Pictures
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Converting: C:\Documents and Settings\Ben Kerekes\My Documents\9.jpg
Converting: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DefaultChangeCD.bmp
Finished converting pictures
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- 26/07/2003 8:53:54 PM
- Free on drive D: 6441.41 mb
- Video Encoding using Canopus ProCoder
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Executing Frameserver.
Closing program
StreamSectors: 833239988
AudioSectors: 125496
VideoPAPO: 12905388
ScanOffsetBytes: 2
SeqAligningBytes: 114
DVDBytes: 0
VideoEndHeader: 4
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 300.00
PureMPEGStream: 820208983.80
Seconds: 6.08
CalcMPEGStream: 820208983.80
Frames: 2
CDSize: 800.00
Number of CDs: 1
Cut point 795.00

Executing Canopus ProCoder Encoder.
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- 27/07/2003 12:18:59 AM
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2SVCD ver. 1.1.3 build 2
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Initializing
Initializing finished.

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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "D:\Temp (DO NOT DELETE)\video creation\TitlePicture.bmp.mpg"
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- 27/07/2003 7:30:22 AM
- Free on drive D: 5107.13 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "D:\Temp (DO NOT DELETE)\video creation\ChangeCDPicture.bmp.mpg"
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- 27/07/2003 7:30:25 AM
- Free on drive D: 5107.08 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
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- 27/07/2003 7:30:27 AM
- Free on drive D: 5107.08 mb
- Multiplexing and cutting
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
Offset in Seconds: 1
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 1 seconds
Cut point: 795 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "D:\Temp (DO NOT DELETE)\video creation\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Length of D:\Temp (DO NOT DELETE)\video creation\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
3739 Seconds
Offset in Seconds: 3740
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 1 seconds
Cut point: 795 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "D:\Temp (DO NOT DELETE)\video creation\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Multiplexing and cutting finished.

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- 27/07/2003 7:41:24 AM
- Free on drive D: 3639.20 mb
- Determining length of audio
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Analyzing: D:\Temp (DO NOT DELETE)\video creation\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
3741.126 seconds D:\Temp (DO NOT DELETE)\video creation\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
Analyzing: D:\Temp (DO NOT DELETE)\video creation\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
2402.220 seconds D:\Temp (DO NOT DELETE)\video creation\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
Analyzing finished.

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- 27/07/2003 7:42:41 AM
- Free on drive D: 3639.19 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 2

CD image #1: CD_Image_File_CD1.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe" --verbose --cue-file="D:\TEMP(D~1\VIDEOC~1\CD_Image_File_CD1.cue" --bin-file="D:\TEMP(D~1\VIDEOC~1\CD_Image_File_CD1.bin" "D:\TEMP(D~1\VIDEOC~1\VCDXBU~1.XML"
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- 27/07/2003 7:45:46 AM
- Free on drive D: 2832.97 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 10

CD image #2: CD_Image_File_CD2.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe" --verbose --cue-file="D:\TEMP(D~1\VIDEOC~1\CD_Image_File_CD2.cue" --bin-file="D:\TEMP(D~1\VIDEOC~1\CD_Image_File_CD2.bin" "D:\TEMP(D~1\VIDEOC~1\VCDXBU~2.XML"
CD-Image creation finished.

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- 27/07/2003 7:48:25 AM
- Free on drive D: 2150.36 mb
- SVCD Creation finished!
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- 27/07/2003 10:59:46 AM
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2SVCD ver. 1.1.3 build 2
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Initializing
Initializing finished.

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- 27/07/2003 9:22:50 PM
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2SVCD ver. 1.1.3 build 2
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Initializing
Initializing finished.

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- 27/07/2003 9:25:05 PM
- Free on drive D: 2900.98 mb
- Crash Recovery
- Restarting from: Picture conversion
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- 27/07/2003 9:25:06 PM
- Free on drive D: 2900.98 mb
- Converting Pictures
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Converting: C:\Documents and Settings\Ben Kerekes\My Documents\9.jpg
Converting: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DefaultChangeCD.bmp
Finished converting pictures
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- 27/07/2003 9:25:17 PM
- Free on drive D: 2900.98 mb
- Video Encoding using Cinema Craft
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Executing Cinema Craft Encoder.
StreamSectors: 1665085576
AudioSectors: 124664008
VideoPAPO: 23861952
ScanOffsetBytes: 184261
SeqAligningBytes: 11710823
DVDBytes: 0
VideoEndHeader: 8
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 600.00
PureMPEGStream: 1504664523.87
Seconds: 6150.04
CalcMPEGStream: 1504664523.87
Frames: 153551
CDSize: 800.00
Number of CDs: 2
Cut point 795.00
Variable Settings:
Frames: 153551
Anti Noise Filter: Off
Passes: 5
Image Quality: 30
VAF file creation: On
Video Encoding Mode: Multipass VBR
Min. bitrate: 300
Max. bitrate: 2596
Avg. Bitrate: 1957
Aspect Ratio: 16:9 (borders added, encoded as 4:3)

---AVS Begin---
Import("D:\TEMP(D~1\VIDEOC~1\RESAMP~1.AVS")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\AVISYN~1\Mpeg2dec\mpeg2dec.dll")
mpeg2source("D:\TEMP(D~1\VIDEOC~1\DVD2AV~1.D2V")
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Avisynth2 Plugins\SimpleResize\SimpleResize.dll")
SimpleResize(480,432)
AddBorders(0,72,0,72)
ResampleAudio(44100)
----AVS End----

Closing program
CCE Max Speed: 1.710
Video Encoding finished.

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- 28/07/2003 3:25:59 AM
- Free on drive D: 4163.19 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "D:\Temp (DO NOT DELETE)\video creation\TitlePicture.bmp.mpg"
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- 28/07/2003 3:26:03 AM
- Free on drive D: 4163.17 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "D:\Temp (DO NOT DELETE)\video creation\ChangeCDPicture.bmp.mpg"
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- 28/07/2003 3:26:06 AM
- Free on drive D: 4163.17 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
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- 28/07/2003 3:26:09 AM
- Free on drive D: 4163.17 mb
- Multiplexing and cutting
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
Offset in Seconds: 1
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 1 seconds
Cut point: 795 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "D:\Temp (DO NOT DELETE)\video creation\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Length of D:\Temp (DO NOT DELETE)\video creation\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
3067 Seconds
Offset in Seconds: 3068
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 1 seconds
Cut point: 795 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "D:\Temp (DO NOT DELETE)\video creation\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Multiplexing and cutting finished.

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- 28/07/2003 3:37:23 AM
- Free on drive D: 2577.02 mb
- Determining length of audio
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Analyzing: D:\Temp (DO NOT DELETE)\video creation\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
3069.858 seconds D:\Temp (DO NOT DELETE)\video creation\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
Analyzing: D:\Temp (DO NOT DELETE)\video creation\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
3074.090 seconds D:\Temp (DO NOT DELETE)\video creation\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
Analyzing finished.

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- 28/07/2003 3:38:35 AM
- Free on drive D: 2577.02 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 1

CD image #1: CD_Image_File_CD1.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe" --verbose --cue-file="D:\TEMP(D~1\VIDEOC~1\CD_Image_File_CD1.cue" --bin-file="D:\TEMP(D~1\VIDEOC~1\CD_Image_File_CD1.bin" "D:\TEMP(D~1\VIDEOC~1\VCDXBU~1.XML"
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- 28/07/2003 3:41:41 AM
- Free on drive D: 2577.03 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 11

CD image #2: CD_Image_File_CD2.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe" --verbose --cue-file="D:\TEMP(D~1\VIDEOC~1\CD_Image_File_CD2.cue" --bin-file="D:\TEMP(D~1\VIDEOC~1\CD_Image_File_CD2.bin" "D:\TEMP(D~1\VIDEOC~1\VCDXBU~2.XML"
CD-Image creation finished.

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- 28/07/2003 3:44:50 AM
- Free on drive D: 2457.27 mb
- SVCD Creation finished!
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As you can see, I tryed using different encoders.

I would greatly appreciate any help.

Thanks,
JoshyG2

[scharfis_brain]

your resize-method is wrong.
you have to separate the fields before resizing!

Doing a "normal" resize on interlaced video will mess up the content of the fields, so that the content of fíeld A is partially in field B and vice versa. This produces interlacing artifacts even on TV!


instead of simpleresize (which kind of resizer is this?)
use:
separatefields()
your resizer here(480,432)
weave()

[joshyg2]

scharfis_brain,
I just tried your method and I ended up with a Output resolution of 480 x 1008.

Your method did not work, here is my original script and the modifyed script:

Original:

Import("D:\TEMP(D~1\VIDEOC~1\RESAMP~1.AVS")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\AVISYN~1\Mpeg2dec\mpeg2dec.dll")
mpeg2source("D:\TEMP(D~1\VIDEOC~1\DVD2AV~1.D2V")
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Avisynth2 Plugins\SimpleResize\SimpleResize.dll")
SimpleResize(480,432)
AddBorders(0,72,0,72)
ResampleAudio(44100)

Modifyed:

Import("D:\TEMP(D~1\VIDEOC~1\RESAMP~1.AVS")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\AVISYN~1\Mpeg2dec\mpeg2dec.dll")
mpeg2source("D:\TEMP(D~1\VIDEOC~1\DVD2AV~1.D2V")
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Avisynth2 Plugins\SimpleResize\SimpleResize.dll")
separatefields()
SimpleResize(480,432)
weave()
AddBorders(0,72,0,72)
ResampleAudio(44100)

I also tried BiCubicResize and got the same results.

note: 'SimpleResize' is a common resizer and is bundled with DVD2SVCD.

[scharfis_brain]

oh sorry, my mistake!


separatefields()
your resizer here(480,216)
weave()

[joshyg2]

thanks, I will give it a try and reencode.

This is odd though because many other Interlaced sources I have done before (TV,DVD,DV-Cam) have encoded fine by just using SimpleResize.

Anyway I'll give it a shot.

[joshyg2]

great, It Worked! Thank you.

hmm, I wonder if InterlacedResize does the samething.

[scharfis_brain]

I wonder if InterlacedResize does the samething. It surely will...

[UltimateDBZ]

D9: Moved

Although problem appears resolved, it still belongs here ;)