Next generation DVD format

[ThePanda]

Since all the new tv's are supposed to support progressive scan (720p), will the next generation DVD format contain progressive frames rather than interlaced like the current format? That would make ripping a lot easier. Or better yet, maybe it will be based on MPEG4 and still use the current DVD size, in which case ripping wouldn't even be necessary as the file size would already be small. How many years will it be until next generation DVDs start getting released?

[midiguy]

Most DVDs are already encoded progressively.

[Sirber]

Originally posted by ThePanda
That would make ripping a lot easier. Or better yet, maybe it will be based on MPEG4 and still use the current DVD size, in which case ripping wouldn't even be necessary as the file size would already be small. How many years will it be until next generation DVDs start getting released?

How can I say... I don'tr think there will be next generation DVDs. It's all about marketing. Also, why would films makers help "DVD backupers" like us? Stop dreaming, get a girlfriend, buy a house, do something!!! :p

[ppera2]

I'm sure that sooner or later it will be new, better DVD format worldwide. Main improvement will be bigger resolution. Of course on new, blue laser DVD's.
Probably biggest effort will be made in copy protection, after short life of CSS.

Digitalization of such High Def. must be made from very quality source, mostly from FILM tapes. It will be made probably only by couple big studio/publisher. I hope that they will not distribute it on some Beta or similar tapes, but in digital format to national publishers, who need only to add audio dub, subtitles and menus.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Well if Mr M$ has his way, we'll all be watching High-Def images via DVD using their WMV9 codec.

I'm sure that future versions of stand alone DVD players will be able to spin these disc's (so long as these new players are connected to a network) just as more players are now becoming available that can spin Mpeg4 disc's.

The movie companies would love it because no one has yet cracked the file protection. And with new data protection laws on the horizon, anybody caught, even discussing such 'black arts', will be carted off down to the nearest nick!

Now, I have the new T2 Extreme DVD in High-Def WMV9. But being in the UK (not the US or Canada) it's a real pain being able to watch it. Certainly not as easy as shoving the DVD in a stand alone player and hitting the play (enter/OK) button. So I'm guessing the movie companies will like this 'regional' thing too!

But there's no doubt in my mind. The image's on this disc are awesome!

[ppera2]

What is pic. resolution of that T2 Extreme ?

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by ppera2
What is pic. resolution of that T2 Extreme ?
It's a very cool 1440x816 (total 1,175,040) active pixels.

Which beats the hell out of NTSC's 720x480 (total 345,600) pixels and PAL's 720x576 (total 414,720) pixels on a regular widescreen (1.77:1) DVD.

[manono]

Hi-

But being in the UK it's a real pain being able to watch it.

It's hard enough to watch it in the US. It pisses me off the hoops I have to jump through to watch something for which I paid good money. So I didn't bother. The new DVD transfer is pretty good also, and the movie's still way better than T3.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Hi manomo

Originally posted by manono
It's hard enough to watch it in the US. It pisses me off the hoops I have to jump through to watch something for which I paid good money. So I didn't bother. The new DVD transfer is pretty good also, and the movie's still way better than T3.

You know. As a european user. I don't know how I should feel about that revelation.........

Wow, yes your right. The new std DVD transfer is excellent. I dug out the previously released version and kept flicking between the two - I was surprised at the increased levels of detail (and don't forget, I'm flicking from NTSC to PAL as well). I also like the fact that the makers decided to explain how they did it in the sleeve notes. Which makes for interesting reading.

I bet we'll never see a PAL version of the disc though!

[ppera2]

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
Hi manomo
I bet we'll never see a PAL version of the disc though!

Hmmm... I must ask for some more details about that T2 Extreme...

Is it NTSC? Can it be played progressive, at 24 fps (I don't talk about TV's refresh rate). I assume that it can be played only on computer, not on DVD players...

If it can played progressive, no need for PAL version. Beside it, if you set TV out to PAL...

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by ppera2
Hmmm... I must ask for some more details about that T2 Extreme...

Is it NTSC? Can it be played progressive, at 24 fps (I don't talk about TV's refresh rate). I assume that it can be played only on computer, not on DVD players...

If it can played progressive, no need for PAL version. Beside it, if you set TV out to PAL...

The std DVD (disc 1) is progressive NTSC Mpeg2 video at 720x480 (total 345,600) pixels . Which can ofcourse be played back on any suitable 'stand alone' DVD player.

The High Definition DVD (disc 2) is a totally different story. As it contains WMV9 video at 1440x816 (total 1,175,040) active pixels. And can only be played back via PC.
Yes, it is progessive but no it's not at 24fps (30/60).

If your interested, I have a copy of the T2 Extreme sleeve notes. Which I would be happy to e-mail (not PM) you!

[ppera2]

I searched little about T2 extreme. See that hardware req. is pretty high, what is expected. Also see that you must pay for watching, what lasts 5 days.

No details about framerate, is pulldown used...

[SeeMoreDigital]

Yes, the PC specification listed on the DVD's packaging is a little frightening.

But don't worry.... It will spin on much lower spec PC's!

And once you've bought the disc. You don't have to pay again for watching it. You just need to download a license, which only lasts for 5 days before requiring renewal.

Cheers

[nFury8]

originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
If your interested, I have a copy of the T2 Extreme sleeve notes. Which I would be happy to e-mail (not PM) you!
...Would you mind if I ask a copy of said notes? Would like to take a peek at it. Pls check your PM.

Thx
nFury8